Dear Rach,

You portray women as victims, have nothing good to say about men, get us all riled up, then come out and say you were misunderstood and you like some of us (presumably the ones that can read and comprehend). Furthermore, "Most feminists like men".

Silly us ...

Oldest trick in the book.

Gee, this is a turn-around! You guys have no sense of humour! that's what feminists have been hearing for years.

For the guy who posted all the quotes by feminists, most taken out of context and made during the last fifty years or so, I could do the same in return, but a web site wouldn't be large enough to handle the vast array of alarming, disturbing and non-factual statements about women made by men and recorded throughout thousands of years!

You're just pissed off that you missed out on the rights of 'man' that your grandfathers had. You know, only a hundred years ago, when women couldn't vote, only forty years ago when a woman who married had to leave her public service job, only now when there still is not equal pay.

hahahahahahahahahahaha

Hi OceanGrrl,

The word feminist should not be in the dictionary. It is a highly sexist term, and it is the absolute epitome of hypocrisy. Feminism means that females should be given preference over males (ie one gender is given preference to another). This is why I personally would like feminists to convert to humanists, so that they would have to think of both genders, and not just the female gender only (but big ask I think).

To most males who have been exposed to feminism (as I have), then feminism just means deceit, duplicity, distortion of information, misinformation, biased research, indoctrination of the young, maliciousness, and of course total hypocrisy.

They use all the techniques available to them to carry out their pernicious activities, but the main techniques are in the list at http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=2940#883

It is standard practice for feminists to say that they like men. After a feminist has mocked, maligned, vilified or acted maliciously towards a male, the feminist will normally say that they like males, or that their vilification was only a joke. That is item 17 on the list of techniques used by feminists, and that list has been around for years. The feminist knows that without men, she would be living in a cave. She needs men for her day to day existence, so she hangs the “but I really like men, really” tag onto the end of any vilification. It’s standard practice.

Also many of the quotes by feminists that someone posted in the comments section were from the 1990’s I believe, not 50 yrs ago at all.

As far as the equal pay thing goes, even feminists know that this is a farce. There is a write up about this at http://www.ifeminists.net/introduction/editorials/2005/0112roberts.html
and a book published called “Why Men Earn More”.

I think there is a good recent summation of feminism by a young woman journalist at http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/Columnists/Winnipeg/Lydia_Lovric/2004/12/27/798107.html

She sees no real place for feminism in her life and she sums up feminism “The truth is, equality isn't so important for feminists when the person seeking parity is a guy. Equal treatment only applies when it benefits women. And that's why feminism just doesn't add up.”

Poor dears, Timithy and Seeker, you really should give it a rest. Rachel does not deserve this, she was trying to be amusing, for goodness sake. You two have had this pathetic, embarrassing, self-absorbed, woman-hating conversation earlier and at great length in response to a previous article. Perhaps you should just get together for a little private love-in over a cup of tea. Maybe you could slip on some black shirts, have a good gossip about how bad women have destroyed your lives, and leave the rest of us in peace. I think you have children Timithy? I really worry about what you are teaching them, and how they will survive you to find the kind of unselfish love that we all deserve.

HI Grace
My child is doing very well thanks. She does very well at school, and at her sports, and at her art, receiving awards in everything. My only hope is that she does not become indoctrinated by feminists as she gets older and enters university. So far she seems unaffected and happy.

I did not start this topic. It was started by OLO who posted the topic, and I have been replying to comments made by other people, some of whom have made remarks about myself. Your belief that men cannot have any say is one of the techniques of feminists (IE no 16 “State that women have a right to speak their minds, then oppose any male who speaks his mind regards feminism or the modern woman. Label this male as being sexist, chauvinistic, or belonging to a radical men’s group.”)

You did not tell OceanGrrl to “give-over” only me. This is most typical. If a male critics feminism, then try and shut him down. It is standard practice.

I have also read many of the articles posted in the Society section of OLO and most do not seem to contain much of the male perspective I believe. Perhaps you do not like to here from the male perspective.

If Rachel does not deserve it, do many of the young men going through life deserve what is going to happen to them.