Dear Dan,

«OK. So one of the factors affecting the Government decision to employ a Bikle gang as security, may have been their ethnic origin.»

So in summary, you think that Bikies and Muslim Bikies in particular, are so dangerous to the community that government sent them away to Nauru, and paid them handsomely too from our taxes, just to not be here, on the pretext of guarding there some hapless hostages?

Why weren't they similarly employed to just march up and down that island?

Yuyutsu

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#So in summary, you think that Bikies and Muslim Bikies in particular, are so dangerous to the community that government sent them away to Nauru, and paid them handsomely too from our taxes, just to not be here, on the pretext of guarding there some hapless hostages?

Why weren't they similarly employed to just march up and down that island?#
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Firstly, nobody is guarding “hostages”. What the guards on Nauru are guarding, are illegal immigrants. Marching around the Island would be pointless, and serve no positive ends. The residents of Nauru are not illegals, so don’t qualify to be harassed

Second question: Muslim Bikies considered so dangerous to Australian communities, they are sent to Nauru to rid society of the risk.

No…I don’t agree with that premise. They maybe dangerous in our communities, but I believe their danger to our communities is not reflective of any additional danger they may pose to inmates in the detention centre, or any reason behind the decision to employ them as guards on Nauru.
I believe the decision to use them as guards for this purpose, was one based on pragmatism, with a smattering of naive ignorance on the Governments part.
Is it even an embarrassment to the Government? Probably not.
Is it morally wrong? Not in my view.

What seems wrong in this discussion, is your view on the status of inmates on Nauru, being hostages: They are not hostages when in fact they may return to their original destination as an alternative to detention. This is a detention centre, not a prison for the purpose of punishment; even though the detention may be punishing, and extra so, in light of the recent information of the origin of the guards being Muslim Bikies.

Dear Dan,

«Firstly, nobody is guarding “hostages”. What the guards on Nauru are guarding, are illegal immigrants.»

How else can you describe people who were captured by force when sailing on the high seas?

Some of them may have happened to also be immigrants - so what? What's that to do with you?
And as for title "illegal", that is laughable - they were never subject to your laws in the first place, nor the birds that flew over them, nor the fish under!
In fact they were nowhere even near the continent you [wrongly] consider to be yours, but much closer to the Indonesian shore.

The Australian navy had no valid business out there to begin with, near the shores of Indonesia: it came there deliberately to hunt down these sailors, confiscate their boats and lock them up on some island.

People who commit such cruel atrocities have a notorious name: PIRATES.

«They are not hostages when in fact they may return to their original destination as an alternative to detention.»

So you assume the power of mind-reading?
They have no duty to disclose to their kidnappers what is on their minds, which are totally private,
so who then told you they had any destination(s) to begin with, original or otherwise?
Perhaps they were just happy where they were out at sea before you came and disturbed them?!

And now they cannot go anywhere because you confiscated and/or destroyed their boats!
Even New-Zealand offered to take them, and they indeed wanted to go... but the pirate bastards of the Australian government did not allow it.

Australia should stand trial in the ICJ for this crime against humanity, and be forced to return the boats to these people along with many $millions to each of the prisoners in compensation for their trauma, humiliation and lost years of life.

Want to add to this bill also the cost of harassment by Muslim Bikies?