Yuyutsu

#discrimination against women thousands of years#

It’s important to me, as the saying goes.

Your translation of Hebrew text makes no change to the KJV. Both translations omit the mention of women.
In this day and age, with a shrill of politicians screaming for equality in the workplace, while an ever increasing number of those workers are living in tents and cars on the street, with their plight ignored as a preference, every little bit of information counts.

Anyway, i thank you for your input, as you thank me for mine! ( Again).
However, I see not the slightest problem with Bikies running security at Nauru.
What is the difference between discrimination of women thousands of years ago in Moses day, to discrimination against Bikie gangs today.
I’d call this one a FIFO job for the otherwise unemployable .
Surely this example of equality, highlights inclusion and equality in the modern age, which is apparently what we’re all looking for.

Dear Dan,

What an interesting perspective...
I was thinking of women, I was thinking of the poor prisoners abducted to Nauru, but it hadn't occurred to me before to think similarly of the Finks guards.

Discrimination on the grounds of criminality, or perhaps on the grounds of sadistic inclinations, how unfair...

Such people are already prohibited from working with children and the elderly, etc., so why also deprive them of the one job they are so good at?

Given a job that no conscientious person is willing to perform, here is a perfect solution - to give it to the unconscientious, so they can express their sadism constructively and even get paid for it generously...

Well I understand it if you need to keep these people employed so they don't fall into mischief - so all it takes is to let the poor prisoners go from Nauru, then these thugs can be paid for marching up and down the island!

Yuyutsu

You are very sceptical.
Why wouldn’t the recycling of bikies, not follow the bizarre life of the Ark of the Covenant, which disappeared from Israel, to be claimed as resurrected in an orthodox Christian church in Axum Ethiopia, centuries later. Recycling at its best.

Surely, recycling bikies for a useful purpose, matches the modern trend of recycling with an array of multicoloured garbage bins. Multicoloured motor cycles indicating rank from chief fixer down maybe fits here.

Dear Dan,

«Surely, recycling bikies for a useful purpose»

Yes, you pinpointed it - the key word is "USEFUL".

Yuyutsu

Are they useful or are they not: is God the creator, or a figment of people’s imagination?

The two opposing sides to both arguments, vehemently oppose each others view.

Does Russell’s Teapot theory fit here, that it may help unravel both conundrums?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell%27s_teapot

Dear Dan,

«Are they useful or are they not»

Hijacking people on the high seas, then locking them up on an island and hiring guards, costing $billions, to make sure that they do not escape, is anything but useful (regardless whether the guards are good, bad or just ugly).

Next you asked me a seemingly-unrelated fundamental question: my answer is not at all trivial and you will need to take the time and contemplate it deeply and carefully until you understand:

«is God the creator, or a figment of people’s imagination?»

Neither.

1) If God were the creator, then that would mean that before creation he was not a creator, or in other words, that God is subject to change.
Obviously "The Rock of Ages" is not subject to change!

2) If God were a figment of people’s imagination, then that would mean that the world is controlled by a figment of people's imagination. Oops, so what then controlled the world before humankind?

However, God can still be seen as creator for all practical purposes, since He is the material cause of the universe.

Think about this:
Nobody can properly understand those two words of Genesis 1:2, "tohu vavohu", which were loosely translated into "chaos".
Yet one could also read it as "[o]to hu vavo hu", making the verses read:
"In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth; and the earth was the same Him and in Him..."

«Does Russell’s Teapot theory fit here»

I cannot see how.