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Fichte and the right to be well: a philosophical case for universal healthcare : Comments

By Sam Ben-Meir, published 28/10/2025

Fichte’s radical idea - that freedom is a shared condition, not a private possession - makes universal healthcare not charity, but justice.

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I like the USSR version of Universal health care. Where a doctor is paid at the same rate as a Janitor: The true principal of Egalitarianism.

Once, two thousand years ago, universal health care was paid for by “ faith”, which is Christian Egalitarianism: And I should add, the need for secrecy to reduce the risk of overburdening the fragile and understaffed facility of Universal Health Care of its time: IE The miracles of Jesus and his Apostles.

Currently though, the HC system has no need of divinity; being science based, and a mine for money, its future still points towards scarcity as an assurance for its success.

In reality, its usefulness in its current state of collapse, is but a dream of things that might have been, and a nightmare to those who rely on it to prop up their existence.
Posted by diver dan, Tuesday, 28 October 2025 9:01:41 AM
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Where a doctor is paid at the same rate as a Janitor:
diver dan,
Well, anyone can Google nowadays just like Doctors do so yes generally, I think they're grossly overpaid as are most "experts".
Posted by Indyvidual, Tuesday, 28 October 2025 9:24:20 AM
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It seems to me to be a lot of words to state something simple.
Society works as a team.
To have the best come out of that team, each member needs to be mentally and physically healthy and capable.
So society has a vested interest in having all its members be this way.
So maintaining the health of its members is of prime importance.
A wise society makes a strong effort to ensure this.
When it enforces this concept, it becomes a 'right'.
Posted by Ipso Fatso, Friday, 31 October 2025 12:39:38 PM
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Fichte's arguments are full of holes like a Swiss Cheese.

Freedom is something we are born with, not something provided by other people, their society(s) or institution(s).

Freedom does not equate with power either, it does not imply capability, otherwise one could complain that the fact that I cannot rearrange the stars in the sky in my own order means that I am not free.

Free health-care is a great thing because it is an expression of compassion.
Make it compulsory, taken for granted and/or a rational necessity - and the whole element of compassion goes down the drain!
Posted by Yuyutsu, Sunday, 2 November 2025 8:58:03 AM
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Fichte's Foundations of Natural Right (1796–97) appears to have been written at a time when the worldview of cultures didn't extend beyond it's own borders, and so it seems inappropriate to conflate it's ideas to the world. Even if Fichte was correct. Also as others have said freedom doesn't necessarily imply free health.
This misuse of Fichte may be similar to the misuse of John Stewart Mill's On Liberty by Woke Marxist's and Leo Strauss. A particular reading of Mill's negative freedom would result in Aristotle's positive freedom.
However given that Doctors seem to have a government mandated monopoly within healthcare that gives doctors additional rights, there should presumably be concordant responsibilities.
In Australia healthcare has seemingly become increasingly racist towards Anglo-Celtic and European peoples and dominated by foreign cultures.
Posted by Canem Malum, Tuesday, 4 November 2025 6:36:20 AM
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I was re-reading the article and the posts, and felt obliged to comment thusly.
When we are born, we have no natural rights.
The only rights we enjoy are those we are given.
And those rights given to us must be enforced and defended by those around us.
Without this support, any rights we are allowed could well be very short lived.
There are always those who would encroach recklessly on our personal space if they gained advantage by doing so.
So living in a stable and well organised democracy is a great benefit to us.
It gives us our (semi-permanent) rights and privileges.
Posted by Ipso Fatso, Saturday, 8 November 2025 1:06:30 PM
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