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Trump sets road map for Gaza but still silent on Judea & Samaria : Comments

By David Singer, published 10/10/2025

From UN walkout to global backing: Trump and Netanyahu’s Gaza plan flips the script in 72 hours.

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Trump is the Qatar Puppet.
Israel is doomed.
Posted by diver dan, Friday, 10 October 2025 9:54:36 AM
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Israel was probably always doomed, Dan. As I said elsewhere, with hindsight and what has happened for over three quarters of a century, the state of Israel would never have been born. While I favour Israel over its enemies, what a way to live! Never knowing when you will be attacked, slaughtered by a bunch of Islamic lunatics when you could be living elsewhere.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 10 October 2025 11:26:45 AM
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Too true. (ttbn).

Not forgetting also, the turncoat West which has almost to a man, sided with the ME terrorism and mounted a ferocious attack on Israel.

Not only is Israel doomed because of it, but we too as individuals living in the West are equally doomed along with them.

My heart bleeds for Israelis;(and myself).
Posted by diver dan, Friday, 10 October 2025 12:36:35 PM
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"Israel is doomed."

With such atrocities broadcast globally that has made the whole entire world sickened, we can only hope.

"Not only is Israel doomed because of it, but we too as individuals living in the West are equally doomed along with them."

We ARE NOT doomed along with them.
If anything we are doomed BECAUSE OF THEM
Their stupid M/E wars to attack any neighbouring nations that supported Palestinians are the cause of the Middle Eastern and African immigration.
It's time you pair took your heads out of the sand and faced up to facts.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 10 October 2025 1:53:01 PM
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Dear Ttbn,

«While I favour Israel over its enemies, what a way to live! Never knowing when you will be attacked, slaughtered by a bunch of Islamic lunatics when you could be living elsewhere.»

Israelis think similarly about Australia over its fires and floods - never knowing when you will be ordered to leave your home at short notice and never see it again. Same about Japanese and their earthquakes, Americans and their tornadoes, Diaspora Jews and their anti-Semitism, etc.

Life is a dangerous pastime.

Israel's bigger trouble is its internal divisions, having never established or agreed over what its raison d'être is, what a "Jewish state" actually means and therefore why these wars are worth fighting, or having to force themselves in an ugly way on other people who hate and do not want them.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 10 October 2025 2:35:12 PM
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Trump is Qatars “Bitch”, not Puppet!

Trumps compromised position with Qatar, is a real problem.

Trumps idea of peace is to have Israel agree to Turkish, Egyptian, Qatari (Trojan Horses), and some US forces on the ground in Israel, to oversee Israeli compliance to the peace deal. No wonder Albanese is heaping praise on Trump.

That madness alongside an official backing of the terrorist sponsoring State of Qatar, with a US Security Guarantee against foreign incursion; (read further attacks from Israel on terrorist strongholds in Doha (and protecting Trump golf courses in reprisal attacks from Iran maybe, wink wink, as a consequence ).

Trump is hopelessly compromised.

The Trump peace deal is a looming disaster for Israel.
Posted by diver dan, Friday, 10 October 2025 4:08:24 PM
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"The Trump peace deal is a looming disaster for Israel."

Only because what you want is for Israel to murder every last man woman and child in Gaza and the West Bank and steal all the land for Eretz Israel.

"That madness alongside an official backing of the terrorist sponsoring State of Qatar, with a US Security Guarantee against foreign incursion..."

"The primary US military presence in Qatar is at Al Udeid Air Base, which is the largest US base in the Middle East and hosts the forward headquarters for US Central Command (CENTCOM). The base primarily supports Air Force units with logistical, intelligence, and combat aircraft assets.

The U.S fifth fleet is based in Bahrain.
They can always pack up their military bases and go home if they want.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 11 October 2025 8:40:56 AM
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"They can always pack up their military bases and go home if they want."

With the M-E largely pacified thanks to the Trump-Netanyahu alliance ( Hezbullah on the run, the Houthis too, Hamas a spent force, Assad in Moscow and Iran still trying to work out how it all fell apart so quickly and easily) there is every chance that Trump and the US will begin a drawdown from the M-E next year.

Remember 'America First'. US policy should be first and foremost what's in US interests. Well, now that Israel is , to say the least, secure the US has no more vital interests in the region.

Yes I know that those who still live in the 20th century think they need M-E oil. But Trump's USA is a net exporter of oil and has no need for M-E fossil fuels.

Of course, people like the Saudis and Qataris have a great need for the US to hang around in case Iran decides to have another crack at regional hegemony. But they can now look to Israel as their military guarantee and probably will.

The pivot to China has begun in earnest.
Posted by mhaze, Saturday, 11 October 2025 5:27:42 PM
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If anything we are doomed BECAUSE OF THEM
Armchair Critic,
You didn't try very hard to sound more ignorant on this one. Westerners are looking doom right in the eye because of their utterly idiotic mentality on the Woke Left in particular. Yes there are such idiots on the Woke Right as well however, not quite as large a percentage.
As soon as the present federal Govt administration can be halted the more of a chance we have to recover.
The world's problem stem from the Left who blame the conservative Right for literally everything the Left is causing.
Posted by Indyvidual, Saturday, 11 October 2025 5:55:05 PM
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"Hezbullah on the run, the Houthis too, Hamas a spent force, Assad in Moscow and Iran still trying to work out how it all fell apart so quickly and easily"
- That seems a little naive
Hezbollah aren't entirely out of the game, Houthi's fought the Saudi's for 8 years they have hypersonic missiles, the West doesn't, They shot down at least 16 Reaper drones destroyed Israels southern port and transit through the Red Sea. Iran and Iraq fought for 8 years as well, the Iranian people are more galvanised behind the 'regime' now and it has gained a lot more military help from Russia and China now. Netanyahu recently phoned Putin begging him not to send Iran weapons and threatening to support Ukraine., Israel's 'iron dome' has been exposed as being incapable of defending against attacks, Israel has shown it can't fight a war of attrition, the Gulf States are wondering about their relationship with the U.S. when they allowed Qatar to be attacked,

"Remember 'America First'. US policy should be first and foremost what's in US interests. Well, now that Israel is , to say the least, secure the US has no more vital interests in the region."
- Israel has lost support in the U.S.
More Americans now support the Palestinians than they do Israel.

"Yes I know that those who still live in the 20th century think they need M-E oil. But Trump's USA is a net exporter of oil and has no need for M-E fossil fuels."
- I don't care about U.S. needs, and I'm happy to take Russia, Iranian or Venezuelan oil, it makes no difference to me other than the cost at the pump.
"But they can now look to Israel as their military guarantee and probably will."
The Saudis signed a mutual defense agreement with Pakistan a few weeks back.

"The pivot to China has begun in earnest."
- Yes hows that going?
Didn't America spent 20 years fighting the Taliban?
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 12 October 2025 11:13:24 AM
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that's pretty funny AC.

Your main argument seems to be that Iran/Hezbullah/Houthis/Hamas weren't completely wiped of the face of the earth therefore they won.

The won in the same way as the black knight won.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmInkxbvlCs

You do tell yourself fables don't you?
Posted by mhaze, Sunday, 12 October 2025 1:38:10 PM
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I grew up in the Eastern Suburbs of Sydney and went to a High School where the percentage of Jewish students was between 10% and 15%.
While not Jewish I have a strong feeling for Israel: invaded on the day it proclaimed its existence and surrounded by hostile states who frequently tried to destroy the Jewish state.
Israel has a right to exist living in peace inside its own borders.
I feel the current Jewish government is not one I would welcome in a state which is at peace with all its neighbours I can understand their attitude to their own existence.
I long for a peaceful attitude in Israel's neighbours.
Posted by Brian of Buderim, Sunday, 12 October 2025 8:29:54 PM
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There is no possibility of peace at any time in the future.
Their religion requires them to remove Israel and the Jews.
If the Jews and Christians will not accept Islam then we must pay
Moslems the Jizaz tax as determined by what they can force you to pay
or if you refuse the penalty is death.
The Moslems are commanded to make the whole world to be for Allah.
Now, I find it hard to believe that ALL moslems would enforce that
but if their leaders are fanatical their countries will have that policy.
Take Gaza as an example;
The people of Gaza cheered and even took part in the carnage on the
7th October. However if they end up living in the rubble for the next
ten years it may make other moslems think twice.
No one not even other Arabs are going to spend $Trillions rebuilding
Gaza just to start another war with Israel.
They may of course decide to bypass Israel and attack Britain or France.
I think the US might be too hard to attack and would certainly result
in a nuclear devastated Iran or whoever would be the current fanatic.
This whole religious driven Koran policy has been very successful
since the Arabs invaded Mesopotamia in the 7th century which included
Israel, Damascus, Syria and Egypt etc, so why abandon it now.
One theory is that a religion was needed to tie them altogether.
So Islam was invented.
Trump's peace can only be temporary.
Posted by Bezza, Monday, 13 October 2025 7:58:43 AM
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