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An open letter to the Israelis: rise and save the soul of your country : Comments

By Alon Ben-Meir, published 21/7/2025

I appeal to every Israeli - you have become the victims of deceptive and morally repugnant leaders who have systematically betrayed you by pursuing their treacherous messianic agenda.

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Yuyutsu

You again exhibit your pure fantasy of a perfect world. Even God himself exhibits bouts of pure rage and Christ himself was no shrinking violet: Hell-fire and brimstone are written large in the Christians texts, inclusive of the Old Testament.

You need to allow yourself to get angry with the enemy…hint.
Posted by diver dan, Tuesday, 22 July 2025 8:57:20 AM
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Dear Dan,

Could God be possibly enraged about His own creation, who is also present in every particle and whom nothing can ever happen without?

Even when hell-fire and brimstone need to be used in order to correct human behaviour, God still loves us all!

Yes, there is a time to get angry with enemies:
"There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens" ... "a time to love and a time to hate, a time for war and a time for peace." [Ecclesiastes 3:1/8]

However, this is not the right time for it because this specific article is about Israel's poor behaviour, not about "Palestinians" and their poor behaviour. Neither of these two unrelated behaviours is OK.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 22 July 2025 2:01:25 PM
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Yuyutsu

… Even when hell-fire and brimstone need to be used in order to correct human behaviour, God still loves us all…

That’s not what I understand. According to Christian texts, our one chance of avoiding Gods wrath, is during our personal time on earth. Most people are destined to rot in Hell.
It’s all an attitude thing. Narrow is the way to eternal life, and broad is the road to destruction.
Great emphasis is placed on hypocrisy.

There is a line of thought which blames the Jewish rejection of Christ and his teachings, as a curse upon its Nation. The Jews certainly appear to suffer more than the average through history. Would you consider that cause and effect to be legitimate?
Posted by diver dan, Tuesday, 22 July 2025 7:07:24 PM
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Dear Dan,

«According to Christian texts, our one chance of avoiding Gods wrath, is during our personal time on earth. Most people are destined to rot in Hell.»

Which texts and what do their authors base their conclusions on?

Judaism, Hinduism and Buddhism, agree about the existence of hell (7 levels of hell, actually in Hinduism, one below the other), but then only the exceptionally evil go there and then too only for a limited period (one year maximum in Judaism) - mind you, that period of sufferings FEELS like eternity, then they are reborn on earth. Similarly, the exceptionally righteous go to heaven, but that too for only a limited period, then they are reborn on earth: the majority go to neither hell nor heaven before being born again on earth.

«Narrow is the way to eternal life, and broad is the road to destruction.»

Indeed, but destruction is only temporary, then one gets to climb out and try to gain eternal life again. Sooner or later, everyone will choose the narrow way and attain it.

«There is a line of thought which blames the Jewish rejection of Christ and his teachings, as a curse upon its Nation.»

Well firstly I do not believe in that silly notion of "Nation" - each person is being judged on their own merit or demerit alone.

«The Jews certainly appear to suffer more than the average through history.»

I doubt that to be the case. Have you any reliable statistics on that?

I tend to think that Africans, Chinese, Russians, North Koreans and Ukrainians, suffer more, for example.

Perhaps the sufferings of Jews are more often publicised and talked about?
Posted by Yuyutsu, Wednesday, 23 July 2025 12:55:19 AM
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