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An open letter to the Israelis: rise and save the soul of your country : Comments

By Alon Ben-Meir, published 21/7/2025

I appeal to every Israeli - you have become the victims of deceptive and morally repugnant leaders who have systematically betrayed you by pursuing their treacherous messianic agenda.

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Lord Haw Haw at it again: Tokyo Rose was more entertaining, let’s hear it from Penny Wong.
Posted by diver dan, Monday, 21 July 2025 7:35:27 AM
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So, any ‘leader’ of the Palestinian people, not having to ‘imagine’ this trauma, should thus surrender as a military, hand over the remaining hostages- and end the unnecessary suffering of their people!
Posted by Deputy, Monday, 21 July 2025 3:38:33 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPzIRijp9Jo

While you're all at it have a look at this also !
Posted by Indyvidual, Monday, 21 July 2025 5:46:09 PM
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Dear Deputy,

Yes, the "Palestinian" "leaders" could stop all their sufferings in a flash, any time, by surrendering.

In fact, if they were wiser or if they ever cared for their people, then they would not have embarked on the path of terror to begin with, in which case Netanyahu and the Nazis in his government would have never come to power and so Israel would have freely returned their territories many years ago, just as it returned them the Gaza strip in 2005.

Nevertheless, Israelis have to deal with the reality:
1) The "Palestinian" "leaders" are still there.
2) Netanyahu is still in power.
3) The Nazis Netanyahu included in his government will not allow him to remain in power unless he obeys them and instructs the IDF to commit atrocities against the Gazans.
4) These atrocities are presumably committed in the name of Israel and its people, rather than in the name of those Messianic Nazis.

Hence Israelis must cry out, not that the can achieve much by that as long as the Nazis in power control the police and Israelis are arrested and brutalised for speaking out against their war.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 21 July 2025 6:14:36 PM
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Indyvidual

The blind leftists such as this author and our own inimitable Yuyutsu of course, will remain totally so unto death.
Thankfully for Israel, there are a remaining 80% of the population enlightened enough, and motivated enough to resist the lies and propaganda from the likes of this author; a pathetic and dangerous loser.
Great link…
Posted by diver dan, Monday, 21 July 2025 10:06:01 PM
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Dear Dan,

I agree that the Indyvidual's linked clip is excellent.

Yet it reflects on the so-called "Palestinians" and their violent society.
Indeed they have no valid cause and lots to answer for.

The article is not about that.
The article is about Israel and its behaviour, irrespective of the above.
Just because one side is wrong does not make the other side right.

Would you not expect higher moral standards from those who claim to be "the chosen people" and consider their mission to be serving as an example to the world, being "a light unto the nations"?
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 21 July 2025 11:38:30 PM
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Yuyutsu

You again exhibit your pure fantasy of a perfect world. Even God himself exhibits bouts of pure rage and Christ himself was no shrinking violet: Hell-fire and brimstone are written large in the Christians texts, inclusive of the Old Testament.

You need to allow yourself to get angry with the enemy…hint.
Posted by diver dan, Tuesday, 22 July 2025 8:57:20 AM
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Dear Dan,

Could God be possibly enraged about His own creation, who is also present in every particle and whom nothing can ever happen without?

Even when hell-fire and brimstone need to be used in order to correct human behaviour, God still loves us all!

Yes, there is a time to get angry with enemies:
"There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens" ... "a time to love and a time to hate, a time for war and a time for peace." [Ecclesiastes 3:1/8]

However, this is not the right time for it because this specific article is about Israel's poor behaviour, not about "Palestinians" and their poor behaviour. Neither of these two unrelated behaviours is OK.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 22 July 2025 2:01:25 PM
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Yuyutsu

… Even when hell-fire and brimstone need to be used in order to correct human behaviour, God still loves us all…

That’s not what I understand. According to Christian texts, our one chance of avoiding Gods wrath, is during our personal time on earth. Most people are destined to rot in Hell.
It’s all an attitude thing. Narrow is the way to eternal life, and broad is the road to destruction.
Great emphasis is placed on hypocrisy.

There is a line of thought which blames the Jewish rejection of Christ and his teachings, as a curse upon its Nation. The Jews certainly appear to suffer more than the average through history. Would you consider that cause and effect to be legitimate?
Posted by diver dan, Tuesday, 22 July 2025 7:07:24 PM
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Dear Dan,

«According to Christian texts, our one chance of avoiding Gods wrath, is during our personal time on earth. Most people are destined to rot in Hell.»

Which texts and what do their authors base their conclusions on?

Judaism, Hinduism and Buddhism, agree about the existence of hell (7 levels of hell, actually in Hinduism, one below the other), but then only the exceptionally evil go there and then too only for a limited period (one year maximum in Judaism) - mind you, that period of sufferings FEELS like eternity, then they are reborn on earth. Similarly, the exceptionally righteous go to heaven, but that too for only a limited period, then they are reborn on earth: the majority go to neither hell nor heaven before being born again on earth.

«Narrow is the way to eternal life, and broad is the road to destruction.»

Indeed, but destruction is only temporary, then one gets to climb out and try to gain eternal life again. Sooner or later, everyone will choose the narrow way and attain it.

«There is a line of thought which blames the Jewish rejection of Christ and his teachings, as a curse upon its Nation.»

Well firstly I do not believe in that silly notion of "Nation" - each person is being judged on their own merit or demerit alone.

«The Jews certainly appear to suffer more than the average through history.»

I doubt that to be the case. Have you any reliable statistics on that?

I tend to think that Africans, Chinese, Russians, North Koreans and Ukrainians, suffer more, for example.

Perhaps the sufferings of Jews are more often publicised and talked about?
Posted by Yuyutsu, Wednesday, 23 July 2025 12:55:19 AM
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