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Oh, hapless Liberals, learn from Disraeli : Comments

By Dan Ryan, published 9/6/2025

Liberalism and Conservatism are indeed very distinct philosophical and political traditions whose differences should not be underestimated.

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Yeah. Robodebt. One of the people disgusted with Morrison's King's birthday award was the mother of a kid who kill himself over the Morrison government's Robodebt.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 9 June 2025 6:55:09 PM
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I have not done any homework or fact-checking on this topic, but on the basis of this article alone, this Disraeli fellow is not someone I would be glad to have as my neighbour or son in law.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 9 June 2025 11:09:21 PM
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Daffo the Duck. Hi.

Your pathological hatred of Uncle Donald knows no bounds it’s obvious, however you must be fair in your judgements, otherwise it tends to negate your ( most likely correct) criticisms.

It may interest you to know, Uncle Donald descends from a conga line of scoundrels, is it fair to judge his make-up on superficial observations?

For example, his Grandaddy Trump made a particular fortune in the Klondike gold rush of the 1890’s.
He achieved his riches not with calloused hands but by speculating in real estate and operating Hotels and Brothels for the gold mining fraternity: Following which he moved to NY to continue his real estate speculations, and before you know it, up pops Uncle Donald, the red dragon!
Is he really responsible for all that he stands accused of, or should we water down ( probably justified) criticism of his character, by siding with a professional medical view, and accept the notion of Historic Trauma as a cause in his case?

Individual:

I think it not helpful justifying the dog acts of Howard and Abbott, by deflecting criticism away from them as you do, by bucketing the Labor Party as a decoy.
But I do agree with your assessment of the Bureaucracy as joint culprits, but not equal in the crime though.
Posted by diver dan, Tuesday, 10 June 2025 8:56:21 AM
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Individual

As an aside, somebody told me at a party recently that Howard lived with his Mummy until he married at fifty five.
Question: should anybody that lives with their mother into old age be trusted with the responsibility of running a Country?
Posted by diver dan, Tuesday, 10 June 2025 9:10:07 AM
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diver dan,
that has been stated here a number of times & explained ! Get a new one !
Posted by Indyvidual, Tuesday, 10 June 2025 9:39:53 AM
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Robodebt was a purely Labor bureaudroid fiasco, the Scomo Government never instructed the bureaudroids to persecute people as you et al keep suggesting !
The labor loyalists saw a loophole to vilify a conservative administration & they unfortunately succeeded !
If I'm wrong, please provide evidence of the then government's instructions relating to Robodebt !
Posted by Indyvidual, Tuesday, 10 June 2025 9:45:13 AM
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