Indyvidual,

I can only assume you’re getting your news from Sky After Dark or Facebook posts. It’s one thing to be wrong about an issue, but to have every single detail completely backwards? That’s… something else.

What makes it worse is that this time, you’ve doubled down - confidently demanding evidence to prove you wrong.

From the ground up, Robodebt was a Coalition-engineered policy - championed, implemented, and defended by the very ministers you’re now trying to shield. This isn’t a matter of opinion. It’s not spin. It’s the conclusion of a Royal Commission, launched precisely to cut through the political noise and get to the truth:

http://robodebt.royalcommission.gov.au/publications/report

There’s your evidence. I can’t imagine how you need it, though.

Even the most politically disengaged schmo on the streets should know enough about the two major parties to at least sense that something is seriously off with your version of events.

something is seriously off with your version of events.
John Daysh,
I wouldn't expect you to say anything else. When everything is Woke leftist academic bureaucrat you don't honestly believe that they'd tell in 2023 as it really happened two years earlier ? Just like this Union President who told me "I'll do anything not to cooperate with this administration" (Borbidge Qld Govt) upon me saying let's hope things will improve. Do you really think the left has changed in over thirty years when it hadn't changed in favour of integrity since '72 ?
It's you who is doubling down all the time with unverified arguments. The only thing that rather predictably changes is income increase immediately followed by cost & price increases pushing up inflation till the Australian Dollar hits Italian Lira value.

Indyvidual,

All you've done is confirm that you’re not actually interested in facts - just in defending a narrative, no matter how disconnected from reality it is.

You didn’t dispute the findings of the Royal Commission - you just dismissed them because they came from “leftist bureaucrats,” as if that somehow invalidates a year-long legal inquiry with sworn testimony, thousands of documents, and bipartisan support.

That’s not a rebuttal. That’s intellectual cowardice.

You also ignored that the Coalition government themselves eventually scrapped the Robodebt scheme and paid $1.8 billion in compensation to victims. Was that Labor too?

And instead of addressing any of this, you defaulted to anecdotes from the 1990s and generic economic grumbling about inflation. That might work on Facebook. It doesn’t work here.

You can keep yelling “woke!” into the void, or you can face the fact that you backed a government that unlawfully targeted the vulnerable - and got caught. That’s the real reason you’re deflecting.

the Coalition government themselves eventually scrapped the Robodebt scheme and paid $1.8 billion in compensation to victims. Was that Labor too?
John Daysh,
When you don't have a pool of officers with integrity to operate a scheme, integrity itself forces the abandoning of that scheme. That's what the Coalition did ! Again, show me where the then PM & his administration instructed these integrity-devoid bureaudroids to persecute the innocent. No, Labor orientated bureaudroids saw an opportunity to trap & malign the Government ! They did not pay out $1.8 billion in the manner you try to convey, the Taxpayers of Australia paid for the damage caused by incompetent & corrupt bureaudroids !

Indyvidual,

You’re now in territory so far removed from reality that it doesn’t even qualify as spin - it’s pure invention.

You’ve proposed a scenario where:

- Coalition ministers launched a massive automated debt scheme,
- but were somehow sabotaged by secretly left-leaning public servants,
- and the Royal Commission, tens of thousands of documents, ministerial testimonies under oath, and billions in compensation - all somehow failed to reveal this grand bureaucratic betrayal.

I seriously doubt even Sky After Dark would fabricate this much about such a recent and well-known episode in our political history, and the slogans in Facebook memes aren't long enough to make such detailed claims. This has to be a conspiracy fantasy stitched together to avoid confronting what actually happened:

The Coalition implemented an illegal, cruel, and deeply harmful policy. And when it collapsed under legal pressure, they did what they had to: folded it, apologised, and paid out compensation to the victims. But not as an act of "integrity" - just a damage control measure after a catastrophic policy failure.

You ask me to “show [you] where the PM instructed persecution” as though persecuting the innocent necessitated a specific order demanding it. What happened was far worse:

Ministers ignored legal warnings, misled the public, and let an unlawful scheme run for years, ruining lives in the process - our DOGE.

And now you’re trying to shift blame onto “Labor-aligned bureaucrats”? The same bureaucrats the Coalition appointed and directed? That’s not just implausible - it’s embarrassing.

You asked for evidence. You were given it. Instead of addressing it, you retreated into a narrative so far removed from reality it wouldn’t survive a high school debate.

To get back on topic, your not the only one who does this - an all-too-significant percentage of the Liberal Party support base is capable of engaging in the same kind of source-free historical revision you have here, and it was these the article pleads with most:

You can't modernise or self-correct as a party when a vocal portion of your supporters can't even admit or learn from past failures happened.

but were somehow sabotaged by secretly left-leaning public servants,
John Daysh,
Yes ! I just hope the Conservatives can come up with another John Kerr before it's too late !