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If this isn’t genocide, what is? : Comments

By Alon Ben-Meir, published 5/6/2025

For over a year, I refused to ascribe Israel's war against Hamas and the reign of horror it is inflicting on the Palestinians in Gaza as genocide, but now I feel shaken to the core.

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Dear Critic,

«It means the murderous scum killing women and kids haven't come out of it unscathed if they survived the war unlike those they killed.»

Nobody anyway can do bad things yet remain unscathed.
This is a basic natural law, or if you like to view it from a different angle, God sees everything.

Yet desiring for certain others to suffer because of what they did, is called 'revenge'.
Israel's government is famous for that, but you sadly seem inclined to it as well.
FYI, this is the psalm that Jews are supposed to read in their prayer every Wednesday morning:

"
The Lord is a God who avenges.
O God who avenges, shine forth.
Rise up, Judge of the earth;
pay back to the proud what they deserve.
How long, Lord, will the wicked,
how long will the wicked be jubilant?
They pour out arrogant words;
all the evildoers are full of boasting.
They crush your people, Lord;
they oppress your inheritance.
They slay the widow and the foreigner;
they murder the fatherless.
They say, “The Lord does not see;
the God of Jacob takes no notice.”
Take notice, you senseless ones among the people;
you fools, when will you become wise?
Does he who fashioned the ear not hear?
Does he who formed the eye not see?
Does he who disciplines nations not punish?
Does he who teaches mankind lack knowledge?
The Lord knows all human plans;
he knows that they are futile.
..."
[Psalms 94]

«It's a reasonable price to pay for their atrocities.»

Only God in His/Her infinite wisdom and knowing can tell what is a reasonable and appropriate price. Trying to squeeze our brains in such calculations can only give us premature wrinkles.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 10 June 2025 2:13:46 PM
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Religion is the real culprit. Until the mid east changes it's ways and sees the devil as the head man of their religion there will be no change. Women are the pawns that are only allowed to know what their men tell them. A lop sided religion that is evil. The Israelis know there is no hope of ever living in peace while Hamas exist. Persons that live with the enemy are the enemy.
Posted by doog, Tuesday, 10 June 2025 4:22:49 PM
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Dear Doog,

«Religion is the real culprit.»

Middle-Eastern tribalism which strangely passes by ignorant people as "religion".

«Women are the pawns that are only allowed to know what their men tell them.»

And you seriously believe that this idiocy is serving God, by His (male, I suppose) instructions?*?*?

«A lop sided religion that is evil.»

Not a lop sided religion - but not a religion at all!
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 10 June 2025 4:57:30 PM
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How do you get tribalism out of people that follow a book called Koran.
Isn't that the common denominator. The only deviation from what is written is the determination by mufty as to meanings. The book doesn't mean what is written, it means what i say. That has got to be religion.
Posted by doog, Tuesday, 10 June 2025 9:50:26 PM
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Dear Doog,

How the get tribalism out of people - that is the million-dollar question!

I don't have a full answer, that is a broad topic, but I just made some small suggestion that may help in that direction and contribute in that effort:

Don't credit those people, them tribalists and their stupid books, with the prestigious and glorious title of "religious", and their unwholesome way of life with the title of "religion".

They and their books are not religious!
Their way of life is not a religion!

Religion is to do with God.
Do you think that God, through His angel, dictated the Koran, in order to inform mankind of His will?
Do you think that following the Koran (or its interpretation by a mufti) helps the follower to come closer to God?

If you answered with 'No' to these questions (which I think you would), then you need to agree with me that this tribalist way of life called "Islam" is anything but a religion.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 10 June 2025 11:22:25 PM
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Hi Yuyutsu,

If there does exist a physical god(s), which is highly debatable, and unless that physical god communicates its wishes for you directly, then how do you determine what god requires of you? Within most religions the "word of god" is contained in the words of "holy books", as written and directed to the mass of adherents through the prophets.

BTW, Why do we need direction from god as to how to live our lives? Are we such feeble minded creatures that we cannot direct our lives ourselves.
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 11 June 2025 4:24:27 AM
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