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If this isn’t genocide, what is? : Comments

By Alon Ben-Meir, published 5/6/2025

For over a year, I refused to ascribe Israel's war against Hamas and the reign of horror it is inflicting on the Palestinians in Gaza as genocide, but now I feel shaken to the core.

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Here he is, back again with clumsy unsophisticated rhetoric, attempting to reinforce the narrative of half truths and outright lies in support of Hamas.
This clown is a lover of Terrorism and a full blown Anti-Semite: This is what has taken over the West and will destroy it, fresh from the University educated.
We are left to ponder our future when this outcome rides the wave of universal acceptance.
Posted by diver dan, Thursday, 5 June 2025 10:23:14 AM
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So Israel is the most evil country on the planet and Hamas is free of blame for October 7, for placing troops in and under hospitals, for firing rockets from schools, from shooting Gazans who protest against Hamas and for stealing food from its citizens. Of the thousands who have been killed by the IDF, at least one third are Hamas terrorists and many of the rest are innocent civilians who Hamas has used as human shields.
Posted by BernieMasters, Thursday, 5 June 2025 11:02:59 AM
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When Hamas practises genocide it somehow isn't however, if Israel wants to put a stop to the idiocy against it, cries of genocide erupt from the guilty !
Posted by Indyvidual, Thursday, 5 June 2025 11:48:08 AM
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Credit to Ben-Meir for finally admitting he was wrong ... never easy to do!

Many more enlightened experts were already warning of genocide within weeks of the October 7 attack in 2023.
https://consortiumnews.com/2023/10/27/the-genocidal-language-behind-israels-intent-in-gaza
https://consortiumnews.com/2023/10/27/biden-risks-complicity-in-genocide-warns-brief
And certainly by now, the majority of expert commentators unambiguously call the horror show in Gaza and the West Bank for what it is … genocide or ethnic cleansing.

This process began well before October 7.
“The Israeli government is slaughtering Palestinians every night, massacring people in their homes, schools, and hospitals.” (Jewish Voice for Peace Executive Director, Stefanie Fox, January 2023)

Zionists have clearly stated their divine right to claim exclusive possession of all Palestinian territories.
“The long game of the Zionist Project was openly proclaimed in the 2018 Basic Law of Israel confirming the intention of maintaining Jewish supremacy and exclusive rights of self-determination in the entire territory stretching from ‘the river to the sea.’” (Former UN Special Rapporteur on the situation of human rights in the Palestinian territories occupied since 1967, Richard Falk)
https://truthout.org/articles/new-israeli-regime-moves-toward-cleansing-all-palestinians-from-palestine

Zionist-funded US politicians have openly demonstrated the same support.
“Netanyahu, finish them, finish them… finish them!” (US presidential hopeful, Nikki Haley on Fox News, 10 October 2023)
“We are in a religious war here… Do whatever the hell you have to do… Level the place.” (US Senator, Lindsey Graham on Fox News, 11 October 2023)

Yes, it’s clearly a genocide. Millions all around the world are now calling it for what it is. We just have to hope our government will now belatedly step up and strongly condemn Israel and immediately sever all diplomatic, trade and defence ties with this pariah nation.
Posted by Bronwyn, Thursday, 5 June 2025 12:38:16 PM
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An attempted genocide seems to be going on indeed - but it's not by Israel, it's by the cancer which eats up Israel.

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Dear Dan,

«This clown is a lover of Terrorism and a full blown Anti-Semite»

The author is a mournful Jewish Israeli.

The ultimate lover of Terrorism is Binyamin Netanyahu who financed Hamas and was likely also the one who hired their terrorist services on October 7th, 2023. There has been no traitor like him since Judas Iscariot.

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Dear Bernie,

«So Israel is the most evil country on the planet»

Obviously not - there still is North Korea, Russia too: Is this a competition?

«and Hamas is free of blame for October 7»

Hamas certainly shares the blame for October 7, 2023 with its financier and covert supporter, Binyamin Netanyahu, who could reasonably also been their instigator and the brain who hired their savage services in order to save himself and his family from prison and loss of government.

But now we are in 2025, not 2023 - enough is enough.

Hamas has already been so badly beaten and decimated. It won't have the capabilities to repeat such atrocities for decades, or ever again without similar massive funding from Israel's king who still walks free.

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Dear Bronwyn,

«Zionists have clearly stated their divine right to claim exclusive possession of all Palestinian territories.»

They are not Zionists - they're Nazis who claim to be "Zionist" as their cover.
The original Zionist movement was benign, though naive, seeking to include the local Arabs as respected and equal citizens in their new state: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Old_New_Land

«hope our government will now belatedly step up and strongly condemn Israel and immediately sever all diplomatic, trade and defence ties with this pariah nation.»

You should be careful to cut off the culprits and not their victims - the government of Israel and not ordinary Israelis who suffer that cancer. Severing trade would hurt many innocent people, both Israelis and Australians that benefit from their products, especially chronically ill Australians who would perish without their medications made in Israel.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Thursday, 5 June 2025 2:54:13 PM
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Yuyutsu
As much as I hope you are correct, I fear that a ceasefire would simply allow Iran and Qatar to pour money into Gaza with the primary but disguised aim of re-arming Hamas and allowing it to repeat what it did on October 7. As long as Hamas is the government in power in Gaza and while maintaining its goal of destroying Israel and presumably killing any Jews who don't want to see their country destroyed, Israel's war against Hamas in Gaza will continue, with Hamas happy to see its civilians killed in order to have people like you put pressure on Israel to stop defending itself.
Posted by BernieMasters, Thursday, 5 June 2025 3:31:28 PM
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Dear Bernie,

The 7th of October could not have happened under normal circumstances while the IDF was standing on guard. An abnormal number of simultaneous "mishaps" was required to allow Hamas troops into Israel and delay Israel's response, including even the airforce being misled, the intelligence and observers ignored and 99% of the army diverted and alert on the Lebanese border, leaving the Gazan front deserted - and I don't think it was just a coincidence.

«As long as Hamas is the government in power in Gaza and while maintaining its goal of destroying Israel and presumably killing any Jews»

Hamas can only be in government if it is supported by the local people.
To have peace and not just a temporary cease-fire, Israel should win the hearts of the people, and it can, at least a different government could, which believed them to be human too. Shooting at them and destroying their homes is not quite in that direction.

«with Hamas happy to see its civilians killed»

Exactly - if Israel could only convince the population that kicking out Hamas is more important than destroying Israel. It might not be a big love affair but if the ordinary people at least learnt that Israel cared a little more about them than Hamas does. After all, suppose Hamas was successful and Israel destroyed, then these poor people would have had to live under Hamas forever.

Otherwise, Hamas may no longer be there, but a similar group would take over under a different name.

«in order to have people like you put pressure on Israel to stop defending itself.»

Israel has long completed the phase of defending itself, which lasted some month or two or three and I supported that phase at the time. Israel's government has now gone instead (for domestic political purposes) into a spree of blind thoughtless and also ineffective revenge, which I do not support.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Thursday, 5 June 2025 4:35:38 PM
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Most everything here is out of date.
Hamas has been depleted significantly and the partial vacuum
so generated has been filled with tribal groups looking after their
own patches. They owe nothing to Hamas only to their own district.
This must complicate things for the Israelis.
It is early days yet but they have hoovered up a lot of Hamas arms.
Posted by Bezza, Thursday, 5 June 2025 4:57:09 PM
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The suffering of the Palestinian people is terrible, and the death toll is shocking, but it isn’t genocide. Genocide is the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group. If Israel wanted to destroy the people of Gaza the death toll would be far, far higher.

Alon asks a series of rhetorical questions that deserve answers:

“how do you explain the deaths of nearly 54,000 Palestinians, more than half of them women, children, and the elderly?” Actually by the standards of recent conflicts these numbers are not especially high (http://www.britannica.com/list/8-deadliest-wars-of-the-21st-century). About half of Gaza’s population are children and half of the rest are women, so a conflict with a high proportion of civilian casualties will have a high proportion of women and children among them. And there are many civilian casualties because Hamas hides its personnel, arms and equipment in residential areas and in or under civilian infrastructure such as mosques and hospitals. This habit of using civilians and civilian infrastructure as human shields also answers Alon’s second question: “How do you define the deliberate destruction of hospitals, clinics, schools, and whole neighborhoods with thousands buried under the rubble, left to rot?”

Alon asks, “How do you describe the many Israeli soldiers who boast about the number of Palestinians they have killed?” This is despicable, but I suspect that some combatants in pretty much every war in history have done the same.

It may indeed be that Israel has lost its Jewish values, and will never be the same. I hope not. But Hamas apparently remains true to its genocidal Islamofascist values; and that has been for years, and remains, the prime reason for the suffering of Gazans.
Posted by Rhian, Thursday, 5 June 2025 6:12:04 PM
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Here is the song sheet prized by the author and Yuyutsu. http://www.972mag.com/

This nasty little rag will ultimately be sponsored by Qatar, the true sponsors of Hamas, not Netanyahu, or the CIA, the security arm if the US Democrats, in their relentless campaigns of disinformation against any Democracy not Leftist; especially Israel.
Posted by diver dan, Thursday, 5 June 2025 8:34:36 PM
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Dear Rhian,

«If Israel wanted to destroy the people of Gaza the death toll would be far, far higher»

But one cannot speak of Israel as a single "wanting" agent: Israel is deeply divided and different Israelis want different things.

Members of the Nazi party in Israel's coalition government - well sure, if they had free reign then they would immediately spray Gaza with sarin gas, killing all including inside the tunnels (because sarin is heavier than air). Then they would proceed to kill all Israeli Arabs as well as any Jew who ever befriended them, then finally kill all Jews who fail to observe Jewish Halachic law.

But Netanyahu himself is neither a Nazi nor genocidal, just a weak opportunistic petty criminal who does not care this way or the other how many get killed, including Israeli hostages and soldiers - all he cares is for his own skin and for his immediate family. As he needs to keep the war going on indefinitely to avoid a royal commission, for him it is best to kill the Gazans SLOWLY - enough to satisfy his Nazi coalition partners, but not finish that human fuel too quickly.

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Dear Dan,

Thank you for the link, very interesting, resourceful and sad.

- Make Israel Moral Again!
Posted by Yuyutsu, Thursday, 5 June 2025 9:59:25 PM
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Alon is correct in his belief that genocide is happening in Gaza. The far right Zionists that now control Israel are intent of ethnically cleaning all Palestinian territories, and incorporating those lands into Israel. The Zionist cheer squad here and elsewhere are rather predictable in their denial of what is blatantly obvious.
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 6 June 2025 5:50:39 AM
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Dear Yuyutsu

When I wrote of “Israel” I was referring to the actions and aims of its government. I acknowledge that many Israelis disapprove of their government and its conduct, as do many of Israel’s friends abroad. And yes, there are extremists within Israel who would like to see ethnic cleansing of Palestinians from territory they hold and would like to hold – a Zionist version of “from the river to the sea”. But they are, fortunately, a minority.

I dislike Netanyahu and his government intensely. But I’m not sure that any other government would have done much differently in the aftermath of the October attacks. Hamas had built up weapons and military capabilities and an astonishing network of tunnels in which to hide them. Israel had a right and responsibility to try to ensure they were not used against its citizens again. Hamas has refused to lay down its arms, and more importantly to release its hostages – if it did, the conflict would end today. I hope that peace talks lead to an outcome where the hostages are released, Hamas loses control of Gaza, and Israel ends it occupation. But until then, I think Israel’s government will continue its military campaign in Gaza.
Posted by Rhian, Friday, 6 June 2025 1:52:30 PM
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Dear Rhian,

»But I’m not sure that any other government would have done much differently in the aftermath of the October attacks.»

To begin with, no other Israeli PM would have plotted that attack and no other Israeli government would allow the IDF to be so extremely off-guard and silenced Israel's intelligence sources which warned about the impending attack.

Now we can only go by what the opposition parties said:

Some complained that Netanyahu was too soft and hesitant, that at the critical point when Israel was on the verge of winning, he withdrew 4 out of the 5 divisions Israel had in Gaza; and if it was them instead then they would continue with the full force and end the war shortly after with a great victory.

Others said that they would have stopped the war over a year ago if all hostages were released.

For Netanyahu, having a war was and still is the end by itself - not winning it, not losing it, just having it, for as long as possible, and I think that he was covertly the one to start it by hiring Yahya Sinwar, inviting him to do the dirty job.

«Hamas has refused to lay down its arms, and more importantly to release its hostages»

Hamas agreed since over a year ago to release all the hostages in exchange for a permanent cease-fire, and recently even in exchange for a 7-year cease-fire.

That nightmare could have been over long ago, had Netanyahu agreed, and not only the hostages, but also hundreds of Israeli soldiers could have then remained alive and thousands not wounded.

But for Netanyahu, an end to the war would mean an acceleration of his trial, a royal commission about October 7th, fresh elections and ultimately, jail-time. What to say about the Gazan victims of the war, he also does not care about the Israeli victims.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 6 June 2025 2:53:12 PM
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Free Palestine
Posted by mikk, Friday, 6 June 2025 5:55:55 PM
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"For over a year, I refused to ascribe Israel's war against Hamas and the reign of horror it is inflicting on the Palestinians in Gaza as genocide, but now I feel shaken to the core."

That's because you're weak, pathetic, gutless and you found it too easy to look the other way and pretend it wasn't happening, until you no longer could.
You were living in a fantasyland.
The question is what are you going to do about it now?
It's a bit late now coward.

"As I kept listening and watching the unfolding horror day in and day out, I could not stop weeping for what has evolved in front of my eyes–indeed, in front of the eyes of the whole world. But then, hardly anything has happened to end this ongoing travesty. The war continues, the slaughter continues, starvation continues, destruction continues, revenge and retribution continue, making inhumanity and brutality the order of the day."

It's good you finally woke up to yourself, but none of it's ABOUT YOU.
And it doesn't change all the innocent dead, they're not coming back.
For 12 months you may as well have been complicit in it.

You'd think the penny might've dropped when they were assassinating 200+ journalists along with their families, but EVEN THAT wasn't enough for you to wake the hell up fast enough, you're a terrorist apologist.

You blame the government, but the whole entire country is full of hate.
Israel's a vile and disgusting nation, founded on terrorism and has no real claim to even exist.

But that's ok, because if Israel keeps it up there will only be a one state solution as you become more and more hated by the entire world.
Palestine.

Israeli's couldn't defend their country for 10 minutes if they didn't have others do your bidding for you.
Your deranged murderous leader wants to risk WWIII and blowing up the global economy with an attack on Iran, but no different than the idiots in UK, Europe, and US neoconservatives and rogue intelligence agencies wish to provoke WIII bombing Russias strategic nuclear forces.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 6 June 2025 6:11:44 PM
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Hi Yuyutsu,

"The 7th of October could not have happened under normal circumstances while the IDF was standing on guard. An abnormal number of simultaneous "mishaps" was required to allow Hamas troops into Israel and delay Israel's response, including even the airforce being misled, the intelligence and observers ignored and 99% of the army diverted and alert on the Lebanese border, leaving the Gazan front deserted - and I don't think it was just a coincidence."

Exactly, not even a cockroach would get through that border wall under normal circumstances.
The whole thing was known about in advance, and Netanyahu allowed it to happen, to push his endless wars to remake the M/E going on 30 years via the Clean Break policy.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 6 June 2025 6:35:32 PM
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The fact the Israelis have gone nuts issuing directives about student protests in other countries shows their reach and ability to impose upon others, but it also shows Hamas won, not Israel.

The only thing that makes up for the atrocities Israel has inflicted upon others is watching the nation tear itself apart while many Israelis now have serious mental health problems.

Hate turns inwards.
Reap what you have sown.
And you deserve all of it.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 6 June 2025 6:44:53 PM
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One Israeli said;
If we surrender we are all dead.

That is what Hamas and the others promise.
Posted by Bezza, Friday, 6 June 2025 11:35:25 PM
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Dear Mikk,

«Free Palestine»

Could you please specify precisely what is it that you propose?

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Dear Critic,

«The whole thing was known about in advance, and Netanyahu allowed it to happen»

"allowed" is an understatement.
Though I have no proof, only circumstantial evidence, I think that Netanyahu was the one to covertly initiate the 7th of October atrocious attack on innocent Israelis. I think that Hamas wouldn't have dared to do it themselves, but acted as his subcontractors.

«The only thing that makes up for the atrocities Israel has inflicted upon others is watching the nation tear itself apart while many Israelis now have serious mental health problems.»

How do such mental health problems make up for anything?
Or do you, like Israel's government, value revenge above people's lives and well-being?

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Dear Bezza,

«One Israeli said;
If we surrender we are all dead.»

Which is true:
Today Israel salvaged the body of a Thai person, Pinta Nattapong, who was working in the fields near the Gazan border on October 7th 2023, from where he was kidnapped and subsequently murdered in Gaza. Pinta was likely not even aware of the conflict, he just worked hard to support his family in Thailand.
http://www.timesofisrael.com/body-of-thai-hostage-nattapong-pinta-recovered-by-idf-from-south-gazas-rafah/

Having killed an innocent Thai, and Muslim Israelis too who even considered themselves "Palestinian", also Israeli peace activities who opposed their government and struggled to "free Palestine" - what hope does any Israeli have, be they the most innocent peace-loving civilian?

After all this rage, there indeed is no hope of survival of even an Israeli cat or a dog should Israel surrender.

But then, nobody is asking Israel to surrender - only to stop the war, only to have a cease-fire for the next 7 years or so, till the inevitable next round.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Saturday, 7 June 2025 11:24:45 PM
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If we surrender we are all dead.
Yuyutsu,
Nothing is more guaranteed ! Western society has been committing genetic suicide for at least 60 years and, it's working !
Posted by Indyvidual, Monday, 9 June 2025 7:10:43 AM
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Kill all infidels apparently is not a call for Genocide !
Posted by Indyvidual, Monday, 9 June 2025 12:50:02 PM
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Dear Indyvidual,

«Western society has been committing genetic suicide for at least 60 years and, it's working !»

I don't quite see how this is related to the topic, but fine, is that a problem?

If anything is worth preserving, then it is the knowledge, the books, the music, not the genes - who needs genes when we have these?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIUTEPeS5NQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgSKvOAJMb8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7woflvtz2eo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCH0xU9xbcs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ooM3EysDDA
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 9 June 2025 12:55:42 PM
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Hi Yuyutsu,

"How do such mental health problems make up for anything?
Or do you, like Israel's government, value revenge above people's lives and well-being?"

It means the murderous scum killing women and kids haven't come out of it unscathed if they survived the war unlike those they killed.
I hope that when they go back to civilian life they are tormented by their actions until they themselves die of old age, and if they decide to end their own lives themselves after doing what they've done, then It proves they are human after all, and I still don't care if they die.
It's a reasonable price to pay for their atrocities.

- Unless they wish to admit what they've done, repent and call out those who forced them to do it and seek to defend all innocent people in future, instead of harming them.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 10 June 2025 7:06:31 AM
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Dear Critic,

«It means the murderous scum killing women and kids haven't come out of it unscathed if they survived the war unlike those they killed.»

Nobody anyway can do bad things yet remain unscathed.
This is a basic natural law, or if you like to view it from a different angle, God sees everything.

Yet desiring for certain others to suffer because of what they did, is called 'revenge'.
Israel's government is famous for that, but you sadly seem inclined to it as well.
FYI, this is the psalm that Jews are supposed to read in their prayer every Wednesday morning:

"
The Lord is a God who avenges.
O God who avenges, shine forth.
Rise up, Judge of the earth;
pay back to the proud what they deserve.
How long, Lord, will the wicked,
how long will the wicked be jubilant?
They pour out arrogant words;
all the evildoers are full of boasting.
They crush your people, Lord;
they oppress your inheritance.
They slay the widow and the foreigner;
they murder the fatherless.
They say, “The Lord does not see;
the God of Jacob takes no notice.”
Take notice, you senseless ones among the people;
you fools, when will you become wise?
Does he who fashioned the ear not hear?
Does he who formed the eye not see?
Does he who disciplines nations not punish?
Does he who teaches mankind lack knowledge?
The Lord knows all human plans;
he knows that they are futile.
..."
[Psalms 94]

«It's a reasonable price to pay for their atrocities.»

Only God in His/Her infinite wisdom and knowing can tell what is a reasonable and appropriate price. Trying to squeeze our brains in such calculations can only give us premature wrinkles.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 10 June 2025 2:13:46 PM
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Religion is the real culprit. Until the mid east changes it's ways and sees the devil as the head man of their religion there will be no change. Women are the pawns that are only allowed to know what their men tell them. A lop sided religion that is evil. The Israelis know there is no hope of ever living in peace while Hamas exist. Persons that live with the enemy are the enemy.
Posted by doog, Tuesday, 10 June 2025 4:22:49 PM
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Dear Doog,

«Religion is the real culprit.»

Middle-Eastern tribalism which strangely passes by ignorant people as "religion".

«Women are the pawns that are only allowed to know what their men tell them.»

And you seriously believe that this idiocy is serving God, by His (male, I suppose) instructions?*?*?

«A lop sided religion that is evil.»

Not a lop sided religion - but not a religion at all!
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 10 June 2025 4:57:30 PM
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How do you get tribalism out of people that follow a book called Koran.
Isn't that the common denominator. The only deviation from what is written is the determination by mufty as to meanings. The book doesn't mean what is written, it means what i say. That has got to be religion.
Posted by doog, Tuesday, 10 June 2025 9:50:26 PM
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Dear Doog,

How the get tribalism out of people - that is the million-dollar question!

I don't have a full answer, that is a broad topic, but I just made some small suggestion that may help in that direction and contribute in that effort:

Don't credit those people, them tribalists and their stupid books, with the prestigious and glorious title of "religious", and their unwholesome way of life with the title of "religion".

They and their books are not religious!
Their way of life is not a religion!

Religion is to do with God.
Do you think that God, through His angel, dictated the Koran, in order to inform mankind of His will?
Do you think that following the Koran (or its interpretation by a mufti) helps the follower to come closer to God?

If you answered with 'No' to these questions (which I think you would), then you need to agree with me that this tribalist way of life called "Islam" is anything but a religion.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 10 June 2025 11:22:25 PM
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Hi Yuyutsu,

If there does exist a physical god(s), which is highly debatable, and unless that physical god communicates its wishes for you directly, then how do you determine what god requires of you? Within most religions the "word of god" is contained in the words of "holy books", as written and directed to the mass of adherents through the prophets.

BTW, Why do we need direction from god as to how to live our lives? Are we such feeble minded creatures that we cannot direct our lives ourselves.
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 11 June 2025 4:24:27 AM
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Dear Paul,

There obviously aren't any physical god(s).

God does not require anything of us, but it is us who may (or may not) wish to come closer to God, and should that be the case then there are methods that can help us to do so.

Sages who have united with God (this is just a figure of speech so please don't take it literally as a physical union), having been there and done that, can share their experiences, telling us what has worked for them and what did not.

I am not aware of any sages who wrote books themselves, because teaching what works to reach God requires a personal interactive touch between master and student, yet it is the disciples (or others who have heard the words of the master 2nd-hand through them), that tend to write books of what they heard from the sages. As I said to "Doog", the Koran (also most of the Bible) does not even come to that.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Wednesday, 11 June 2025 2:25:38 PM
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Hi Yuyutsu,

St Paul, the true founder of Christianity, claimed to be the "greatest disciple of of them all". He claimed the chosen 12 only knew the physical Christ, he alone was chosen by Christ to know him in the spiritual sense. He went on to claim, it was through him that Christ revealed the pathway to God. Do you believe that?

Something of interest, is the teachings of Siddhartha Gautama. "Buddha". Buddha seen no relevance in a physical or spiritual deity, he rejected the notion of a creator God who made all things. Concentrate on your self being to achieve what Buddha called "Enlightenment". It is through self reliance and personal spiritual effort that a person achieves fulfillment, not something bestowed on a person by an external God. Do you believe that?
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 11 June 2025 4:53:39 PM
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Dear Paul,

«he alone was chosen by Christ to know him in the spiritual sense. He went on to claim, it was through him that Christ revealed the pathway to God. Do you believe that?»

I would be suspicious of anyone claiming to be the ONLY.

Shri Krishna states:

"Whenever there is a decline in righteousness and an increase in unrighteousness, O Arjuna, at that time I manifest Myself on earth.
To protect the righteous, to annihilate the wicked, and to reestablish the principles of Dharma I appear on this earth, age after age."
[Bhagavad-Gita 4:7-8]

«It is through self reliance and personal spiritual effort that a person achieves fulfillment, not something bestowed on a person by an external God. Do you believe that?»

This statement is deeper than it seems at first glance, but essentially yes. God is not external, There is nothing but God - Yourself included!
Posted by Yuyutsu, Wednesday, 11 June 2025 5:19:29 PM
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