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The age of bullshit : Comments

By Steven Schwartz, published 26/5/2025

In a world of 'frameworks', 'stakeholders', and 'outcomes' public language is losing its grip on meaning.

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Let's apply these insights to actual Australia, Steven. With the Coalition timid and divided, Greens batting for United Nations, top "stakeholders" in it for themselves, Albanese and Chalmers have got away with industrial-scale lies and misinformation, ABC Pravda and State ANU lending a hand.

So much so, Albanese is emboldened to say progressive-patriotism, while practising regressive-globalism. Seriously, I'm keeping a list of Egregious Labor Lies To 28. Say, I might need to buy an auxiliary hard-drive.
Posted by Steve S, Monday, 26 May 2025 10:50:07 AM
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Good word. It's a pity that we have to smuggle it in by calling it bullsh.t or bullshite.

Good article, too. The misuse of words and language BS is a favourite or scoundrels wanting to hide the truth - particularly left-wing scoundrels.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 26 May 2025 12:02:17 PM
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Thank you for your excellent article. One shouldn't forget that the best b**ters are also good liars. They both do harm, in some cases immeasurable harm. Sorry for the asterisks. The comment censor would not permit plain english
Posted by megatherium, Monday, 26 May 2025 3:52:01 PM
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The Gem:

#…A society fluent in Bull #@# becomes slowly deaf to urgency, blind to fraud, and numb to failure. It stops expecting clarity, and then forgets how to provide it….#

And adds to the scepticism and inexplicable outcomes of voters choice at the polls, I’d also suggest, Bull #@# is smothering of free thought, and high in the nutrient of death of truth.
Posted by diver dan, Monday, 26 May 2025 9:32:44 PM
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Yes.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 27 May 2025 9:01:47 AM
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Dear Steven (the author),

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You wrote :

« When Princeton professor of philosophy Harry Frankfurt published his celebrated book, “On BS”, he gave a certain pungent Anglo-Saxonism its intellectual debut. Until then, the term had largely been confined to bar stools, schoolyards, and frustrated dinner conversations. Frankfurt's achievement was to locate a moral and philosophical distinction: BS, he said, is not the same as lying … The BSer[‘s] … concern is not to mislead, but to impress … »
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“On BS” was published in 1986 as an essay and in 2005 as a book.

Here is a poem written by T. S. Eliot (1888-1965), in his youth, against his female critics (in particular). Unpublished during his lifetime, it first appeared in the posthumous volume Inventions of the March Hare: Poems 1909-1917 (published in 1996).

According to the OED, the title contains the first recorded instance of the word “BS” – though the term had probably been floating around in popular slang for a while before that :
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THE TRIUMPH OF BS

Ladies, on whom my attentions have waited
If you consider my merits are small
Etiolated, alembicated,
Orotund, tasteless, fantastical,
Monotonous, crotchety, constipated,
Impotent galamatias
Affected, possibly imitated,
For Christ's sake stick it up your ass.

Ladies, who find my intentions ridiculous
Awkward, insipid and horribly gauche
Pompous, pretentious, ineptly meticulous
Dull as the heart of an unbaked brioche
Floundering versicles feebly versiculous
Often attenuate, frequently crass
Attempts at emotion that turn isiculous,
For Christ's sake stick it up your ass.

Ladies who think me unduly vociferous
Amiable cabotin making a noise
That people may cry out "this stuff is too stiff for us"-
Ingenuous child with a box of new toys
Toy lions carnivorous, cannon fumiferous
Engines vaporous- all this will pass;
Quite innocent, -"he only wants to make shiver us."
For Christ's sake stick it up your ass.

And when thyself with silver foot shall pass
Among the theories scattered on the grass
Take up my good intentions with the rest
And then for Christ's sake stick them up your ass.

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Posted by Banjo Paterson, Wednesday, 28 May 2025 12:01:25 AM
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