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An era of vertigo : Comments

By Mamtimin Ala, published 14/1/2025

In short, we gradually find ourselves in a globalising society where many values have been entirely or partly upended, turned inside out, and starkly contrasted to what we once considered commonsensical and reasonable.

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JP Comment1- "I’m glad you found the comics interesting. I appreciate your suggestions for improving them. I’ll look into it. The comics are really aimed at thoughtful people from about 15 years of age and upwards."

A- My pleasure. I was referring mainly to the discussion about divorce , which a child will see through a quite different perspective than an adult. IMO the actual impact of divorce on a child, even one over 15, will be more of a second order abstract concept, mainly to do with living arrangements, rather than more practical and stability concerns. That's not to say that children aren't deeply affected by divorce. We live in two worlds- our personal/ social life and our work life. How can we put this in the first order context of the child. I suppose this doesn't have to be a romantic situation but could be a friendly one. It's about the nature of our relationships. Some talk about attachment systems.

We should also be guiding children to the idea that marriage relationships will happen faster than they think, and they need to prepare themselves for the life changing issues that typically occur. Traditionally classical literature was a way of doing this, and still is, but there are elements in contemporary society of greater complexity, that require a different approach.

There are nuanced types of deep relationships, and we need to compare and contrast them to abstract and conceptualize the rules of the "relationship process".

JP Comment2- "I don’t think we can teach children good virtues without a foundation that makes sense. As I argue in the comics, atheism lacks any foundation for any moral claims."

A- Yes good foundations. Atheism doesn't have a soul. Without God, man is God, terrifying without wisdom and knowledge, some God's are better than others. Jordan Peterson says God is an idealized leader. You may have seen this- Don Cupitt- science descriptive ammoral, morality the role of the church.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_of_Faith
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVUIaMDAYwqjMlxhXDehb4k8Oqa5n5KAP

As others have said "problem solving, requires problem background".

Keep up the good work
Posted by Canem Malum, Thursday, 16 January 2025 11:14:58 AM
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Yuyutsu

#Not just "monumental", but it is entirely IMPOSSIBLE to define anything real#

Well I just defined man with pretty much ease; Enoch is a very succinct view of good and evil and makes a good reference to the hierarchy of Heavenly control.
It does a brilliant job in describing the depths of evil man will fall to and the consequences.
I like it.
Another banned Christian text is the Gospel of Thomas. It’s more subdued on mysticism, describing Christ in a more human form. A good book: I care little for the Catholics censorship.
Posted by diver dan, Thursday, 16 January 2025 8:06:33 PM
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Dear Dan,

«Well I just defined man with pretty much ease; Enoch is a very succinct view of good and evil and makes a good reference to the hierarchy of Heavenly control.»

You do realise, I hope, that there is no actual Heavenly hierarchy out there, that this description of angels and daemons is only of the complex opposing forces within our own psyche.

I suppose some texts were banned because the masses misunderstood and took them too literally.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 17 January 2025 4:31:11 PM
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The article author Mamtimin Ala seemingly correctly says that global universalism is the cause of loss of local value and identity.
Posted by Canem Malum, Saturday, 18 January 2025 2:03:17 AM
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Yuyutsu

I read the good book with a slant towards its use of euphemisms.

I read many things. The Tora for example is what I describe as pure edification on scripture as you can get.
But so too are the Christian Catechisms, of both sides, Catholic and Reformationist.

There are clever people who can take Enoch as example, and weave a story from it which reads like a novel of unique proportions; inclusive of Giants a malformations of birth attributed to total lack of morality, melding the animal kingdom into the human tribe.
But, through it all is the thread of Gods retribution for immorality.

True or false, governed by individual belief, the world is portrayed as the Devils playground where evil must rule for a time, opposed by those who choose Righteousness and moral living as the difficult choice.

The message is unchanged for thousands of years, and appears from many diverse directions as confirmation.
Posted by diver dan, Monday, 20 January 2025 6:44:32 PM
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Dear Dan,

If some people require fairy tales in order to stay on the straight-and-narrow, then so be it, and while it has some limited use, that method is also problematic:

1) It can easily be manipulated and abused by clergy who themselves do not keep to the straight-and-narrow.
2) When educated people (and nowadays most are) are presented with fairy tales, not only do they not accept them, but also it hits back the teller like a boomerang.
3) It can induce guilt feelings, and guilt feelings are never conducive for spiritual growth, then remaining on the straight-and-narrow will only be an external expression and one's real feelings would be suppressed and never come out in the open to be purified.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 21 January 2025 12:31:57 PM
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