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Palestinian statehood or setting the stage for the next catastrophic war : Comments

By Alon Ben-Meir, published 18/12/2024

Denying the Palestinian right to statehood and conceding further Palestinian land in the West Bank and Gaza to Israel is a recipe for the next horrific inferno.

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Well Banjo where did you get the idea that the land belongs to the Arabs ?
The Jews lived there for 3000 to 4000 years and the Arab Islamic armies
only turned up in 746 AD !
They are really only "newcomers" and the Jews are indigenous to the land.
At least the aborigines were here for 60,000 years or so they say.
Do you support the aborigines claim ?
Posted by Bezza, Friday, 27 December 2024 10:41:39 PM
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Dear Bezza,

The land of Israel, like any other land, does not belong to Jews or to Arabs - the land belongs to God. Period!

- And if your claim relies on the Bible, then the Bible itself says the same:
"The land must not be sold permanently, because the land is mine and you reside in my land as foreigners and strangers." [Leviticus 25:23]

«The Jews lived there for 3000 to 4000 years and the Arab Islamic armies only turned up in 746 AD !»

The people who lived in Judea some 3000-4000 years ago were indeed ancestors to some of today's Jews. However:

1) They were the ancestors to only a minority of today's Jews, the majority of which are of Caucasian origin.
2) They were not Jewish as there wasn't such a thing then.
Judaism as we know it today is only around 1200 years old and the ancient Judeans worshipped the exact same gods/idols as the other people around them until around 600 B.C.E.
3) Most native "Arabs" in Israel are also descendants of the same.
4) The Arabs who conquered Israel around 746 AD were Christian converts, not Muslim, as Islam did not yet exist at the time. Moreover, the conquerors were not families, just a few 100's of fighters, who came, took what they wanted, killed whom they wanted, levied taxes and left to conquer other lands (leaving only a minimal guard to collect the taxes): they made no significant change to Israel's demography.

«They are really only "newcomers" and the Jews are indigenous to the land.»

Most of Israel's Arab population, including those idiots who now call themselves "Palestinian", are not newcomers, but the descendants of the original Judean farmers who remained on their land ever since - this while their brothers and sisters which later founded Judaism, left the land, essentially for economic reasons.

Anyway, why should being indigenous confer any land rights?
- All lands are God's anyway, we are only entitled to the improvements we make on the land through the toil of our hands.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Sunday, 29 December 2024 10:42:43 AM
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Indeed, Palestine has rejected offers to have its own state ... the first time, Israel was prepared to accept just 20% of the territory.

https://africachinapresscenter.or/2023/10/13/5-times-in-the-past-palestine-rejected-offer-to-have-its-own-state.

How Palestine rejected offer to have its own state 5 times in the past
https://lawandsocietymagazine.com

A Short History of Palestinian Rejectionism,
https://besacenter.org/palestian-rejectionism

Palestinians Rejected Statehood
www.camera.org/article/palestinians-rejected-statehood

The question is why? Certainly the present Hamas leaders are billionaires living very far away from Palestinian territories ... away in Qatar. They have appropriated donations intended for the Palestinian peoples.

Alon Ben-Meir wrote of the Palestinians that they "Never Missed An Opportunity to Miss and Opportunity" (April 18, 2004)
alonben-meir.com

He was quoting Israel's late foreign minister Abba Eban.
Posted by WhiteMouse, Tuesday, 31 December 2024 2:48:00 PM
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