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Covid chaos: lest we forget! : Comments

By John Mikkelsen, published 16/9/2024

With new issues confronting Australia and the world every day, many apparently would sooner forget the early covid years and massive over-reach of vaccine mandates etc.

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Check out this world excess mortality chart which shows Sweden and Taiwan almost flatlining across the bottom, both of which had NO covid lockdowns, compared with the US and UK. Both countries also apparently fared better than most economically, post covid:
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/cumulative-excess-deaths-covid?country=USA~RUS~MEX~BRA~IRN~PER~SWE
Posted by Mikko2, Thursday, 19 September 2024 2:32:35 PM
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If Sweden and Taiwan don't appear on the graph from that link, just select them in the squares in the panel down the right side.
Posted by Mikko2, Thursday, 19 September 2024 2:38:53 PM
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Mikko2,

Ha! I saw what you did there. You chose countries (most of which were backwater shitholes) and put them in with Sweden to skew the results.

This gives a more accurate picture from our context:

http://ourworldindata.org/grapher/cumulative-excess-deaths-covid?country=SWE~AUS

Notice the rise there at the start for Sweden? Yeah, that was their lax covid response at work.

mhaze and I have discussed the reasons as to why Australia overtook Sweden eventually, too.

I'm happy to go through it all with you as well, if you'd like?
Posted by John Daysh, Thursday, 19 September 2024 3:49:05 PM
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Mikko2,
You're not serious about comparing Sweden & Taiwan to the Demographic cesspits of the rest of the World ?
Give us the figures for England, Europe, USA & Australia ! And, how did African Nations fare ?
Posted by Indyvidual, Thursday, 19 September 2024 3:49:55 PM
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Mikko2,

"Check out this world excess mortality chart which shows Sweden and Taiwan almost flatlining across the bottom,"

Sweden of course almost uniquely in the western world took the view that its citizens were adults who could make rational decisions for themselves. Taiwan had a series of benefits which allowed it to avoid the worst of the dreaded wuflu. First they are an island which meant the could isolate from the rest of humanity rather easily. (Australia had that same advantage which largely explain why we did better than most). Secondly, Taiwan was close to China and knows the CCP better than most meaning they didn't fall for the lies China told at the beginning of the hysteria. Finally, because of the one China idiocy, they were excluded from the WHO which meant the didn't have to follow its utterly failing pronouncements. Lucky Formosa.

indy,

"The World would be quite different if Pasteur had the same views as you !"

In string theory it is postulated that their are an infinite number of parallel universes. But even then, in none of those universes would your statement make any sense.

JD,

"Masking and social distancing were also effective, especially before vaccines were available, as multiple peer-reviewed studies have demonstrated."

Rubbish. Fauci and others have already admitted that the 2 metre (6 foot) rule was just made up and has/had no science behind it.
Posted by mhaze, Thursday, 19 September 2024 3:54:30 PM
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in none of those universes would your statement make any sense.
mhaze,
Why, just because you haven't got any answers ? Pretty poor mentality having to resort to ridicule !
Posted by Indyvidual, Thursday, 19 September 2024 4:24:15 PM
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