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Glaciers, graziers, glaziers, and the strangler fig : Comments

By Gabriel Moens and John McRobert, published 31/5/2024

In the transition to so-called 'clean energy', vast areas of land are being devastated and sterilised, destroying natural habitat and good farmland, covered with devices that will be junk within one or two decades.

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25% from wind and solar after fifteen years.
Fester,
Understood however, after all these years a lot of the gear would be worn out & no longer workable. What happens to the wreckage ? Will it be recycled at zero emission ? I don't think so. I don't suppose there is info on all those un-renewable components ?
Posted by Indyvidual, Wednesday, 5 June 2024 7:02:18 AM
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Individual,

I often read comments suggesting how much nuclear power enthusiasts would like nuclear waste in their backyards, so maybe renewable power enthusiasts would be equally keen to have toxic renewable energy waste in their backyards? I sure that old turbines would make great garden borders, and I'd Trackon you could make a mean chook house from old solar panels.
Posted by Fester, Wednesday, 5 June 2024 7:24:07 AM
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Fester,
Society has been groomed to indulge excessively, that's what needs to be addressed & only that will bring down emission & reduce the impact of everything man-made including nuclear waste. If the masses were educated instead of indoctrinated we'd probably get away with not using nuclear in the first place. As things stand right now, nuclear is the most sensible solution.
No Chernobyls or Fukushimas, small, managable & controllable plants. Nuclear ships are a an example of that !
Posted by Indyvidual, Friday, 7 June 2024 7:32:51 AM
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Indyvidual,

Fukushima happened because its backup diesel generators were kept in the basement and got flooded. Chernobyl happened for a few reasons, but primarily because there was no containment vessel and the nuclear engineers thought they could overcome xenon gas inhibiting a fission reaction by removing all but two of the fixed control rods (control rods designed not to be removed). One person died from radiation exposure at Fukushima (lung cancer).

Are you criticising consumption? Did you know that were humans to live a hunter gatherer existence 99% of humanity would die? Cheap energy is the key to keeping humanity alive. Renewables are genocidal.
Posted by Fester, Friday, 7 June 2024 8:59:24 PM
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Japan would have had no problems if they had built their stations on
the west coast. The plate divide is to the east of Japan.

Keith Alder was a friend of mine and he ran Lucas Heights from its
startup till he retired.
His answer to waste fuel; build two specialist power station reactors
and pass the waste fuel through them in turn.
What comes out of them is lowly radio active.
Take in other countries waste and put it through them.
MONEY FOR JAM !
Australia could have more money than it would know what to do with it !
Posted by Bezza, Friday, 7 June 2024 10:19:48 PM
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Fester wrong !
Chenobyl failed for another reason completely.
My friend who spent his life in Nuclear Power systems and Lucas Heights
told me the story of Chenobyl.
He was at a Nuclear conference in Vienna in 1956 when the Russians
described their Magnavox reactor.
After the talks several engineers present spoke about a major flaw
to do with the carbon moderators.
The Russians poo pooded the suggestions.
After the event Keith got the real report and the warnings given in
Vienna were realised and the reactor boiled during tests and blew
the containment vessel apart.
It was all to do with Communist Government attitudes and the refusal
of Russians to listen to others.
Posted by Bezza, Friday, 7 June 2024 10:36:24 PM
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