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How low can COVID-19 catastrophists go? : Comments

By John Mikkelsen, published 11/3/2024

First, a peer-reviewed scientific study linked covid vaccines to a range of serious health disorders, and then the Queensland Supreme Court ruled that the vaccine mandates imposed on police and ambulance workers were unlawful.

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Roll up, roll up for your sixth or seventh booster or maybe actually wake up to what's been happening. From another great article In The Spectator Australia: "It’s been a bad week for Covid vaccine advocates. On Monday, the Australian Senate voted by the narrowest of margins (31 to 30) that excess mortality should be investigated. This was a huge win for Victorian Senator Ralph Babet of the United Australia Party and for all Australians. After voting three times against Senator Babet’s motion on Monday, the Senate finally acknowledged that: ‘(a) the concerning number of excess deaths observed in Australia in 2021 and 2022 has continued into 2023 as evidenced by all-cause provisional mortality data from the Australian Bureau of Statistics; and (b) there is a need for further inquiry as to the reasons for these excess deaths.’

To get the motion passed, Babet secured the support of every cross-bencher, no mean feat. Only Labor and the Greens seem determined to protect the Covid vaccine manufacturers from the scrutiny that will come when Australia’s shocking excess mortality is officially investigated.

So far, Australia’s dramatic increase in excess deaths, which closely followed the rollout of the Covid vaccines and boosters, has only been studied by doctors and scientists working with the independent Australian Medical Professionals Society (AMPS) or independent investigators such as Dr Wilson Sy who has studied excess mortality in Australia and the UK.

The latest ABS provisional mortality data however also tells the story. Published on Tuesday, it showed that excess deaths in November were 12 per cent higher than the baseline average.
https://www.spectator.com.au/2024/03/a-covid-apollygy/
Posted by Mikko2, Tuesday, 12 March 2024 10:21:05 AM
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More from the same Spectator article above:
"The latest ABS provisional mortality data however also tells the story. Published on Tuesday, it showed that excess deaths in November were 12 per cent higher than the baseline average.

This is very disturbing news because after a pandemic is over – and recall the WHO said the pandemic ended in the middle of 2022 – deaths should be lower than normal because of a well-known phenomenon called a pull-forward effect which simply means that because some people died earlier than expected due to the pandemic there should be fewer deaths once the pandemic is over.

Not only is this not the case, but deaths that studies have linked to the Covid vaccines are skyrocketing. For example, deaths due to dementia in November 2023 were 18.5 per cent above baseline and 6 per cent above the number in 2022. While November may have been a bad month, so far, data available for 2023 shows deaths due to dementia were 12 per cent above baseline and only 3 per cent below the number of dementia deaths recorded in the horror year of 2022 in which there were 190,775 deaths, more than 15 per cent above the baseline average...."
Perfectly safe and effective? Yeah, right..
https://www.spectator.com.au/2024/03/a-covid-apollygy/?
Posted by Mikko2, Tuesday, 12 March 2024 10:29:51 AM
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Hi WTF? - Not Again,
"Yet you are on here commenting - that has to be peak denier virtual signalling if ever I say it.."

'peak-denier' and 'virtue signalling' in the same sentence
- Nope, too woke for me sorry, I don't comprehend the meaning of whatever crap it is you're saying.

"Two days ago there were 3 Covid19 attributed deaths in Australia."

Yes, your point is?
Anti-vaxers never tried to force others not to take the vaccine, which is completely different to the pro-vaxers, who did force some people to take it, at risk of losing their jobs, homes, livelihoods, reputations etc.
Anti-vaxers might've been opposed to the vaccine (their personal choice) but they recognised that it was also up to others to decide for themselves, and cautioned against potential unknown side effects.

"Most of the global death caused by Covid occurred in the 2 years from January 2020 until March 2022.
In the last 2 years the death rate has dropped dramatically."
- Well maybe the rate of global infections has also reduced in that period.
Are we calling it 'the flu' again?

"So far, world wide, there have been over 7 million deaths".
- Again what's your point?
Are you saying that there would be a lot less deaths if everyone was vaccinated and a lot deaths if they weren't?

In any case, whats with the 'authoritarian' attitude of forcing people to take an untested gene therapy, instead of allowing people to decide whats right for them?

The pro-vaxers were acting like NAZI's and making the argument that the unvaxed were putting everyone at risk, some even advocated putting us in concentration camps.
That's how you treated us, then many of you vaxed people just started dropping dead on the spot for no reason.
Others amongst you died much slower more horrible deaths;
(Many live, with horrible health problems for life)
- And for others, well dropping dead on the spot just hasn't happened yet, but it will.

Hi Mikko2,
"Roll up, roll up for your sixth or seventh booster"
- 9th.
http://twitter.com/DiedSuddenly_/status/1766542234839564473
And more coming.
http://twitter.com/DiedSuddenly_/status/1766692740337668172
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 12 March 2024 12:40:37 PM
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WTF?
Armchair Critic - I once posed the question "What does woke mean?" or something along those lines.

The Colins definition of woke is "Someone who is woke is very aware of social and political unfairness."

And here we have Armchair Critic rallying against the perceived social and political unfairness associated with vaccination.

Congratulations Armchair Critic - you are now Woke.

I have seen at least one person put their name as an author to an article trying to link Covid vaccinations to abnormal deaths.

It took about 5 minutes of research looking at the author's support material to totally debunk that link.

The author's support/source material actually said "...showed that myocarditis cases after Moderna Covid vaccination were mild and temporary."

As far as I can see nobody writing articles on OLO can show any research linking Covid vaccinations to "many of you vaxed people just started dropping dead on the spot for no reason."

Logic would tell us if there is no reason then it cannot be associated with the Covid vaccine, thanks for clearing that up for us AC.
Posted by WTF? - Not Again, Tuesday, 12 March 2024 1:46:52 PM
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More from the Spectator Australia article quoted earlier:
"...As for cancer, the ABS doesn’t give any analysis, but cancer, the single largest cause of death in Australia is, on the crude numbers, up 7 per cent compared with 2022. Dr Angus Dalgleish is one of several leading oncologists who fear a link between Covid vaccines and an increase in cancer in those in remission. There is also evidence of an increase in new aggressive cancers dubbed turbo cancers.

All this disturbing evidence has led to thousands of doctors demanding the Covid vaccines be withdrawn until they are fully investigated. An avalanche of studies point to a link. While this is well-known to readers of these pages, during a US select subcommittee meeting on the coronavirus pandemic held on February 16 Chairman Brad Wenstrup admitted that Vaccine Adverse Events Reports (VAERS) for the Covid-19 vaccines dwarfed those for all other vaccines combined since 1990. The representative of the Food and Drug Administration, Dr Peter Marks, then admitted that the government had to dramatically increase staff to manage the flood of reports of side effects, a fact first revealed by Dr Naomi Wolf and her team’s study of the 55,000 pages of Pfizer Covid vaccine trial data released under FOI...."
https://www.spectator.com.au/2024/03/a-covid-apollygy/?
If anyone still believes it's "perfectly safe and effective", go for it, but don't coerce or mandate it on others!
Posted by Mikko2, Tuesday, 12 March 2024 6:54:34 PM
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"And here we have Armchair Critic rallying against the perceived social and political unfairness associated with vaccination."

More woke crap.

You imply I'm against the science of inoculation, well I'm not.
I'm against unsafe vaccines.

I don't even think these 'vaccines' innoculate.
Aren't they untested and experimental gene therapies?

My issue is one group of people forcing and peer pressuring another group of people like a witch hunt instead of respecting peoples right to make their own decision, when the whole problem was in fact caused by the federal governments failure to quarantine the country from an outside contagion in the first place.

If anyone wants to take the vaccine, I won't stop them, I'd advise them against it, but if they're elderly I understand they have weaker immune systems and fear the virus, and also often have an unwavering belief in what government tells them is the truth.

"Congratulations Armchair Critic - you are now Woke."

[Rolls eyes]
Congratulations WTF? - Not Again, you're now officially a .......
- You can add in whatever 7 letter word you think suits you best.
I selected one for you already, but forum rules prevent me from sharing.

"It took about 5 minutes of research looking at the author's support material to totally debunk that link."

There's a cause, and there are (side) effect(s), but they probably haven't found a link.
You're essentially trying to argue the side effects don't exist either, when they do, but maybe can't yet be scientifically proven that one (vaccines) are the cause of the other (side effects).
But even the manufacturers themselves state these known side effects.
http://youtu.be/UadHCpSjyew

You're arguing that younger healthier people with strong immune systems should take the vaccine, when in my opinion they face greater risk from the vaccine than the virus.
The argument might be reversed if we're talking about older citizens who have an increased risk of actually dying with Covid.

Some people might look at it like 'the lesser evil'
Some people may prefer to take their chances with COVID rather than the vaccines.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 13 March 2024 9:33:47 AM
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