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Cancelling the F-word: no more failure : Comments

By Steven Schwartz, published 5/10/2023

The Australian government wants to obliterate failure from education. Universities could even be fined if students fail.

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But let's not forget, the real reason for the abolition of failure. It has nothing to do with the needs of local students, everything to do with the "export education industry" so beloved of Liberal and Labor. The latter has an astonishing 850K student/graduate visas inside Australia presently.
Posted by Steve S, Thursday, 5 October 2023 8:28:51 AM
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Education these days is a reminder of the old time sideshow barkers who shouted out, "Everyone wins a prize".

People who score less than 50% have failed. They are not failures as human beings. They just have to look for jobs not needing tertiary qualifications.

Only yesterday I heard on ABC radio that employers were losing interest in degrees where jobs do not require them. They are not interested in pieces of useless paper that everyone has been conned into believing they must have.

Universities will pass people who are incapable because they are just businesses now. Education is regarded as an 'industry' by the political class, who are happy to see international 'students' who can't understand English take home worthless degrees, or worse, stay here and join the already incompetent workforce.

Universities are more immigration agents than educators.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 5 October 2023 9:03:00 AM
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Money speaks ALL languages…including English, is one, and number two is…drum roll…you get what you pay for.

There is nothing crooked or corrupt under this rock as now in the post Christian era, morality is dead, replaced by secular ethics.

Welcome to the great age of the New Secular Enlightenment.

I have to agree with Israel's Sephardi Chief Rabbi Yitzhak Yosef: Secular Jews have lower intelligence.

Standing in the shade of the Secular rainbow are the many examples of lost in the woods morality unable to distinguish male from female; that’s about as lost as you can get.
Posted by diver dan, Thursday, 5 October 2023 9:16:49 AM
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Dropout rates, by and large, have an economic basis.

Country kids, living away from home, need to find rental accommodation and meals. And rents being as they are? May need to work multiple jobs for pennies to make do?

The same applies to postcode poverty regions. The consequence is kids too tired to concentrate on lectures or take notes. And too tired to do justice to exams.

If the dropout rate is to be reduced? The economic factors contributing to it, must be PROPERLY addressed!

And universities must get back to core fundamentals as best practice tertiary education. And not become as many have, businesses touting for cashed up foreigners.

And entry standards must be improved, so as the best and brightest, regardless of economic background, are given every opportunity to succeed. And as they do, the economy does as well!

For every dollar spent on higher ed. 2.5 dollars are returned to the economy.

So, tertiary education as outlined, must be considered as a long-term investment in Australia's future!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Thursday, 5 October 2023 9:36:51 AM
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My goodness , What is this government doing to this country. How can we ,the people of this once great country sit by and continuously do nothing about it ?
Posted by Freedom of choice, Thursday, 5 October 2023 10:09:47 AM
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How can we ,the people of this once great country sit by
Freedom of choice,
I certainly am not one of them but when you have those who are like the ones you refer to are put in charge courtesy of Public Service Unions's Peter Principle then well, that's what we get.
The sooner the loony Left is put aside the sooner sanity will make a comeback !
Posted by Indyvidual, Thursday, 5 October 2023 10:20:41 AM
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Hi diver dan,
"I have to agree with Israel's Sephardi Chief Rabbi Yitzhak Yosef: Secular Jews have lower intelligence."
- They may have lower intelligence, but they may also have better manners and understanding of respect towards others?

‘Despicable’: US slams spitting on Christians in Jerusalem by Orthodox Jews
http://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/despicable-us-slams-spitting-on-christians-in-jerusalem-by-orthodox-jews/

Sorry, no hard feelings
- I saw the article headline this morning before I read your comment
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 5 October 2023 4:39:01 PM
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Ah yeah, diver dan
About your 'what is a woman' thing...
I'm not a religious Jew but I know that a woman has:
XX chromosomes, that they ovulate, and shed the lining of their uterus during menstruation and can give birth to new human beings.

I not sure what all this other pro-inclusivity people think a woman is these days;
Scared to offend the LGBTQI...

Give it time and the forum moderator will have to remove this comment due to disinformation;
- If Albo has his way that is
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 5 October 2023 4:50:44 PM
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No worries AC.

Israel is a cauldron of unhappiness at times. Trust me it’s difficult. I have a family foothold in Southern Lebanon and another foot hold in Tel-Aviv, try that one on for size.
And over on the other thread for the day, poor old Al B has camouflaged his Antisemitism behind the post above, and attempted to push me under the bus! See what I mean!
Posted by diver dan, Thursday, 5 October 2023 7:54:23 PM
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I wonder how long it will be before the bridges start collapsing?
Posted by Hasbeen, Friday, 6 October 2023 1:45:33 AM
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Hi diver dan,
"And over on the other thread for the day, poor old Al B has camouflaged his Antisemitism behind the post above, and attempted to push me under the bus! See what I mean!"

- I can see that what Alan B accused you of saying was not at all what you said.

As for Anti-semitism, years back if you recall I was also very critical of Israel, maybe even worse than anyone here, but I tend to stay away from the topic and all the issues related to it nowadays.

If you were to ask me whether my past 'antisemitism' was driven by disdain towards Israeli policies and Jewish religious goals or whether it was driven by defense of the less fortunate Palestinian people,
- I'd probably say it was a little from column A and a little from Column B.

As far as the 'disdain' was concerned, I'd like to think my reasons were never just unwarranted blind hatred, as I felt there was a basis of merit in regards to my criticisms, also it should again be noted that it was never a feeling of disdain towards Jews/Israeli's as the single motivating factor any more than it was partially in defence of those on the other side of the equation, and their right to live peacefully and free also.

Other people may have different reasons, but that's how I would summarise the reasons behind my past criticisms, if it helps to give a little insight.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 7 October 2023 2:39:27 AM
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