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The occupation and Jewish values : Comments

By Alon Ben-Meir, published 18/7/2023

Although the pogroms committed by the settlers that followed were condemned by Netanyahu and the leaders of the opposition, the settlers have been listening all along to the likes of ministers Ben-Gvir and Smotrich.

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Around the year2000
there had been close to 120 bombings and terrorist attacks knifings, inside Israel
by Palestinians.

Israel had been quite easygoing about Palestians coming into Israel to shop, work, use their hospitals.

The last straw was when the Palestinians planted a bomb on an Israelie school bus killing all the children on board

It was then the Israelies started
to toughen their stand against Palestinians and attacks in Israel

If an attack was committed in Israel the perpetrators whole family was deported
and their family home
Demolished
This is not the way 5his is portrayed by the article writer as though Israel just started doing this for no compelling reason.

Sick if hearing only the Arab side of this conflict backed up by the lying biased mefia
Posted by CHERFUL, Thursday, 20 July 2023 12:03:54 PM
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Lying biased media
Posted by CHERFUL, Thursday, 20 July 2023 12:22:05 PM
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Dear ShadowMinister,

«The first duty of any culture/religion is to protect its people.»

A duty of religion is to protect its followers from sin.
Protecting their physical bodies is not in its domain.

«No one can pretend that the Palestinians are trying to kill Jews every day. Cause and effect.»

There is no such thing as "Palestinians", they are just native Arabs, a.k.a original Jewish farmers who remained and never left their land for exile. The word "Palestine" was coined by the Romans for the sole sake of insulting and humiliating the Jews, not something I believe you support.

Yes the natives are trying to kill Jews and certain Jews with the particular Jewish values I noted earlier in the 3rd post of this thread, encourage them to continue with their terror, they keep provoking them because they cannot afford them to stop - they rely on them to keep the other Israeli Jews who subscribe to different Jewish values in fear. Without that fear, no sane Israeli of moderate Jewish values would agree to live together with these fanatics, let alone allow them to govern the country.

The only real war in Israel is internal, Jews of certain Jewish values against Jews of other Jewish values: the so-called "Palestinians" and their violent resistance are only a symptom of that war, they are used as a proxy, a punching bag between the warring sides. Israel is on a trajectory to be split up, likely in an ugly civil war.

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Dear Cherful,

«there had been close to 120 bombings and terrorist attacks knifings, inside Israel
by Palestinians.»

And also many Israeli Jews, including those currently in power, who covertly rejoice whenever they hear the news of these attacks.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Thursday, 20 July 2023 6:07:22 PM
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Yuyutsu

Yes I have noticed what you say about Jews themselves going against other Jews seeming to believe that it will all have a happy ending if they all just join hands and talk about love and tolerance.

If an enemy keeps attacking you with your death in mind, no matter how you try to appease them I think the chance of a happy ending is optimistic
Posted by CHERFUL, Friday, 21 July 2023 6:09:59 PM
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Dear Cherful,

«seeming to believe that it will all have a happy ending if they all just join hands and talk about love and tolerance.»

What you speak of is just a tiny minority.

Jews have many other issues besides to fight about among themselves, including presently whether or not Israel remains a democracy.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Saturday, 22 July 2023 6:54:09 PM
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Dear Yuyutsu,

I don't agree that Israel is a democracy. I don't think any country can be a democracy if it represents only part of its population. Israel cannot be both a Jewish state and be a democracy. Any country which represents only part of the population of a particular ethnicity or religion cannot also be a democracy. I don't believe that Australia is a democracy while there are Christian chaplains in the state schools. A democracy must keep hands off religion, and in a democracy religion must keep hands off government. We define democracy differently.
Posted by david f, Saturday, 22 July 2023 8:08:28 PM
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