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Sometimes men still do it better : Comments

By Bettina Arndt, published 9/6/2023

The constant crowing about women's triumphs denies the reality of territory where men excel.

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This is not Twitter. How about we all just express our opinions and let others do the same. Diver Dan rubbishes Rhian, but he can't tell me what the "other ways" are that he claims would be better than voting. Not voting and just being negative for the fun of it won't gain any respect.

For his benefit, Rhian is female, as he would know if he read her posts properly, and a quite sensible and polite one, even though I prefer Ms. Arndt's to hers.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 11 June 2023 12:51:55 PM
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That's Ms. Arndt's opinions that I prefer. I've just switched off 'predictive text' because of of the annoying and often ridiculous suggestions Google comes up with.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 11 June 2023 12:59:32 PM
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Diver Dan

did not say that I like “equality chamber music” – quite the opposite. I said that male and female contemporary Australian composers are equally talentless compared to the classical masters.

While I partly agree with Arndt that diversity is a real and unwelcome influence on programming, it is not overwhelming. If you look at the programs of our major state symphony orchestras, opera companies and ballets you’ll see the great majority of pieces they play are written by famous dead white European males. Which is a good thing.

This was the program of the WA Symphony Orchestra in 2022. I went to several of these, all of them very well attended. Out of dozens of pieces I heard performed, I recall only two that were written by women.

https://waso.com.au/files/resources/WASO_S22_Brochure.pdf

Nor did I say that tasering bikies is entertainment. I was responding to IF’s argument that even a world run on reason must back this up with “brute force”, enforced by the “physically strongest”. The use of force to protect society is primarily the preserve of the police and military, so I took my examples from these. My point is that use of force no longer needs to be “brute” and is no longer the exclusive preserve of the “physically strongest”. Women as well as men are able to “ensure we are safe”, as IF puts it.

I’d be happy to “fire back” at any other points you’d care to make that are expressed coherently and do not consist of mere insults.

Hasbeen

If you consider Queensland to be a “cot case” because it is run by a woman, why do you not also consider Victoria to be a “cot case” because it is run by a man?

Here in WA we have had only one female Premier, Carmen Lawrence. She did not do a stellar job but in my view performed reasonably well, especially given she inherited the stinking legacy of “WA Inc” and a compete fiscal mess from her predecessors Peter Dowding and Brian Burke. Compared to them she was a beacon of integrity and competence.
Posted by Rhian, Sunday, 11 June 2023 3:02:39 PM
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You should read more carefully Rhian, If you did you would see my last sentence read, "the only state where everything is a disaster, other than Victoria of course". However we know that Victoria's problem, is typical Labor corruption. Queensland has it's share of that too, but it is total incompetence & wrong attitudes that is destroying everything in Qld.
Posted by Hasbeen, Sunday, 11 June 2023 9:55:01 PM
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Maybe the OLO Princess should consider how women die as a balance to grab-bagging suspect examples of how they live. ( if that one wets your appetite for mystery, then maybe I’ll tell you).

And our OLO Knight castigating complainers of female logic, should remember his treatment of another OLO female poster before she picked up her knitting needles and stormed off stage to the delight of many, including myself. You put your own name to the character in question son!
Posted by diver dan, Sunday, 11 June 2023 10:06:53 PM
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I was thinking- it's often been said that hierarchical dominance behavior is more pronounced in male mammals than female mammals and usually males and females don't compete in the same domains. It seems that males and females don't have the same hierarchical paradigms.

In the current era Communists like to put everything down to nurture and say that believing in nature is bigotry in order to shut down discussion. The fact is males and females do think differently based on millions of years of evolution pre-dating humanity- males and females need to work together based on their strongest traits in order to maximize the benefits of cooperation- if either side believe that they aren't benefitting from cooperation- the partners may feel it's better to go it alone- Communists don't seem to believe in this- and seek to divide the sexes in order to create "Trotsky's permanent revolution".

Different attributes are often embodied by different roles in society these run across sexes, ages, size, education, background, family, etc- even in the animal kingdom.

Trans in sport highlight male/female physical capabilities. Military tries to do is to even out abilities- a soldier is an interchangeable widget- yours better be better on average. Pilots/ helicopter gunners can find themselves in enemy territory- soldiers need to be redeployed to other units to supplement casualties- nurses may become infantry. In ancient warfare women were needed to train the young for replacing casualties.

In Ukraine men were required to stay behind for military service- not many women.

There is always the idiot that you can't trust in a firefight- over-estimate their capabilities and get people killed. I just have to remember this when I'm called up to fight with a woman protecting my flank. If they take her out maybe I'll be redeployed with a man with more predictable capabilities. Perhaps our leaders are not rational.

http://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/social-instincts/202012/6-subtle-psychological-differences-between-men-and-women

http://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20180925-with-females-in-charge-bonobo-society-is-more-chilled-out

http://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2017/04/13/a-feminist-biologist-discusses-gender-differences-in-the-animal-kingdom/?sh=43d82d0519b5

"In basically all animal species, males and females do tend to behave in distinct ways, and these distinctions are largely presumed to be biologically hardwired rather than resulting from acculturation"
Posted by Canem Malum, Monday, 12 June 2023 12:06:36 AM
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