Hi Paul,
It's a bit of an eye opener once you understand how US foreign policy actually works under the cover of human rights and 'supporting democracy'. Did you see the map showing the countries where National Endowment for Democracy is operating? It's more or less an entire ring around Russia and China. 99+% of people are completely ignorant of how the world actually works, but now you're one of the few people who better understands.

Brian (the creator of the video) has done many videos like this showing what the US is doing in different countries, watch this one about China and the Uyghurs in Xinjiang, I know that's a topic that would interest you.

The Hidden Proxy War Washington Wages against China
http://youtu.be/DXh5fabezkI

If you have a bit more time up your sleeve, this one (seperate author) is well worth a watch too, shows how democracy serves private interests not the average Joe. The interview itself only goes for a little over half the length of the video.

MICHAEL HUDSON ON BRICS DE-DOLLARIZATION, THE BANKING CRISIS, AND MULTIPOLARITY
http://www.youtube.com/live/CWQjYAg_M84?feature=share

SD,

Nothing was out of context you simply screwed up because of your ignorance of history, I knew about the war between Vietnam and China and you didn't and didn't even bother to check. I expect this level of stupidity from Paul aka village idiot. I hope you can exceed the low bar of his intellect.

Paul, u can't be serious, as McEnroe used to say.

Do you honestly think that an unaccountable CCP will be better for the world?

Have you wondered why many Chinese want to leave China, and why Taiwan does not want to be part of China.

Get over your anti-US sentiment and ask what would the CCP do to greenies or any other group that stands in its way.

Sad that we all have the same information, but we all see the world so differently.

Yes, the US can be an ...hole, but u wait and see what China does should it ever get its way.

When I mentioned the Opium Wars AC advised " It was the western empires that did that." Yes they did. Thanks for telling me something I obviously already knew. But the point I was making was that while the Opium Wars were taking place, Tsarist Russia took the opportunity to blackmail a weakened and beleaguered Han Empire into signing over vast tracts of land to China's north - places like Vladivostok, Khabarovsk and Sakhalin. But the Chinese haven't forgotten that these places were once theirs and have began to agitate about it. Quietly now but agitate nonetheless by reissuing maps of the region with the old Chinese names and protesting Russian anniversary celebrations over the founding of Vladivostok since it was on stolen land (from their point of view). There will come a time when China will be more forceful in its aims of recovering stolen land.

AC writes: "Russia and China natural allies"
No they are temporary allies with a common enemy. But even a rudimentary historic knowledge shows that great powers who share a border a never allies for long.

AC tells me in relation to the 'Treaty of Aigun'
"You're to busy thinking like an American neoconservative,"

Unlike AC who has picked a side and only looks for information that supports that pick, I'm merely an interested observer. In the same way as I don't root for one side or the other in regards to the current war on the Slavic Steppes, I don't care who ends up controlling Siberia. I just observe, as above, that China is beginning to flex its muscle in regards to what it considers stolen land. In the same vein, as Russia is fully occupied in its futile war to reverse the fall of the USSR, China is expanding its influence in the Central Asian republics that used to be Russian homeland.

Looking at world great power politics in regards to what happens to be going on in 2023 without a wider viewpoint, inevitably leads to misunderstandings.

Hi Again AC,

I watched the fist video "The Hidden Proxy War Washington Wages against China". Imagine if China was funding and supporting some dissident group within America, there would be all out war. Unfortunately the sycophants on the forum won't accept America does any wrong. I will accept like the Soviet Union before it, China is no clean skin, but their approach is to win over governments and peoples through economic means.

I have friends in Fiji, and it was Chinese money that allowed for road improvements to the highland villages, roads which has been a nightmare for as long as I've known them. The bus terminates down below, then its a 5 mile uphill trek for school kids getting home, unless a 4WD comes along and picks them up. Given those conditions its no wonder anyone's money is acceptable.

BTW, My friends working in resorts in Fiji, love Australian tourists, they say Aussies drink a lot, Chinese tourists okay, just give them a friendly smile, no trouble. They don't get a lot of Americans, but they say very demanding people, and very loud. In Fiji if you are loud talking its considered very bad manners, up there with farting.

"Yes, the US can be an ...hole, but u wait and see what China does should it ever get its way."

That is self-evidently true. Just ask the Uighur.

But its not the full story. From Australia's point of view, we are immeasurably better off in a world that operates under a liberal regime. The world has been dominated by rules and codes determined by British liberal thought for centuries. Australia exists as the nation it is because the world operates to enhance and encourage free trade, not just in goods but in people and finance and thought. A world dominated by the CCP would be highly detrimental to Australia and would force us to become something very different to what we are today.

In a world where the dominant power was no longer democratic in its aspirations, those nations to our north whose adherence to democracy is equivocal would surely head down other paths, also threatening our way of life.

Australia has support the liberal world order for its whole existence. Its why we helped against the Boer, were in WW1 and Korea and Vietnam. Why we support Ukraine. Not because we have a vital immediate interest in those wars but because we supported the liberal order that fought those wars. That is why the Taiwan Straits are important to us and why, flawed as it is (especially under the current kakistocracy), we support the US against its foes. In the long run it is in our self-interest.