Thanks to Murry Hunter, for a most rational article on China today. No longer can China be seen as the "Big Whore of Asia" to be used and abused as it was in the past by western powers. China by its size, economically and militarily is a concern for the less powerful nations in the region including its ASEAN neighbours and Australia. Unlike the post war control the aggressive Americans were able to exert on Asia by the use of force and coercion, that is no longer possible with China. The problem is we have an economically declining aggressive United States and the old colonial power in Britain, combining with the sycophantic Australia and others under their domination Japan, South Korea and Taiwan, attempting to control the Chinese Dragon through antagoniseation. A very dangerous course indeed.

Paul, you need to try speaking from much higher up! You're full of it, pal.
Alan B.

Alan B,

If you simply want to throw insults then you're a fwit. (A term oft used by others on this forum, so it must be acceptable).

When we say China, we really mean its leadership?
This changes, occasionally.
I really don't think the average citizen there spends all day thinking up ways to outsmart Australia.
The average person there is the same as the average person here.
It is the leadership which is different.
I think the stance taken by the leadership is a way of legitimising the way they exercise control.
The leadership is saying: 'mine is the only way. Unless I do it this way, we all go down the gurgler'.
Or words to that effect.
And the people accept it.
Does any of that sound familiar?

Thanks Aspley, ttbn, Shadow Minister, Alan B, Ipso Fatso for your efforts. There's only one point I agreed with Murray Hunter's pro-China article here. He's got a string of achievements- I can't understand his position- maybe China has something on him- maybe he identifies more with South East Asia than Australia. I suppose there have been a few of his articles on OLO- but this one seems the most strange.

I can understand why those concerned feel the need to restrain China.
With Iraq still smouldering after 20 years of war waged on it by the US, UK and Australia I can see where the example set by these entities warrants that they be accepted as leaders of the free world.
Vietnam is in the 'past' but the legacy is still alive with the servicemen who served.
1 year of Ukraine is an 'atrocity' but 20 years of Iraq is consigned to 'mistake'
When the Palestinians attempt to defend themselves against Israeli state sponsored terrorism the West refers to them as 'clashes' and not persecution.
The Holocaust was about the Nazis killing the Jews but the Israelis torturing the Palestinians en masse and killing a few every now and then is acceptable to the west.
Only a fool, of which China is not, is going to accept the hypocritical stance of the West.
The Chinese memory is not short and they still remember the US gunboats up the Yangtze forcing China to accept US conditions of trade.
So any delusional fool who thinks their opinion is going to have China trembling in it's boots is very much mistaken.
The plundering of the Eagle and the Lion is diminishing, along with their influence on world affairs. The Kangaroo had best take notice and find it's own way forward.
China is doing what the West taught it to do.