Do you realise what it will take to save the environment?

The answer to the question becomes glaringly obvious.

As the population becomes less capable of affording the alternatives to oil, the poor get poorer and the rich get richer exponentially to introduced alternative systems.

Australia is already the most indebted Western Democracy through the madness of a scorched housing market, which has added significantly to poverty and alienation, by dividing its major cities into East side West side debt traps.

At what stage in the struggle to survive the offical madness of Governance, do households permanently shut down the main switch on the electrical meter board in order to eat; a standard practice in times of depression.

Or read some John Steinbeck for clues on intercepting the power lead-in before the meter: then the cat and mouse dodging the authorities searching for just that innovation.

People everywhere will resort to whatever it takes ti survive, and from what I see, that road is well travelled already in many communities.

Hi Merlyn7, you're right, and the errors were in the original manuscript. I've asked the author to supply fresh links and will notify once they have been inserted into the article. My apologies. I should have checked all the links, but was in a hurry. Graham

I question the figures. Actual coal mining jobs by folk working at the coal face, is maybe 12,000 and reflected in the number in their union.

Are their job prospects to take precedence over the environmental outcomes for around 23 million Australians?

Mining coal comes with black lung disease and other health issues as does the burning of coal and what goes up the smokestacks and into the environment. Where do you think the mercury in our fish stocks came from, genius.

It's not as if there were no other jobs they could do and not have to move, lock, stock and barrel when the mine plays out. Besides coal fired power is arguably ten times or more expensive than nuclear.

We just need to lift the insane self-imposed embargo on nuclear power. And inside 12 months a number of SMR's and or MSR thorium modules will be plugging away supplying affordable power to our homes and currently mothballed industry/manufacturing.

Aluminium is just congealed electricity and the big arc furnaces smelting steel not too different. Neither of which could be economically supported by battery of pumped hydro renewables.

Coal fired power has a maximum life in this country of 20-30 years and more than enough time to transition to the power we will need for the rest of our time here on a ravaged planet earth.

It's not like any of this is done tomorrow or in the next five minutes, but progressively and with ample warning. If you cannot adapt to change then expect to be steamrolled by it!

Remember, all human progress has been accompanied by a new source of energy, e.g., when carbon replaced human slavery! Imagine what power prices that could as low as 1 cent PKWH would do to manufacturing.

Better that than greed is good, phucking it as now! It's coal fired enthusiasts who have (do you realise) credibility problems and don't understand the economic outcomes that will come when we transition away from 18th century, coal-fired power!
Alan B.

Pretty damn obvious to any thinking person. And even those who can`t/won`t think.
TOO MANY PEOPLE!!

Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 13 February 2023 5:44:06 PM

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America’s national debt has now surpassed $31 trillion
CNN - Published 6:31 PM EDT, Tue October 4, 2022
http://edition.cnn.com/2022/10/04/economy/us-national-debt-31-trillion/index.html

Who does the United States owe this $31 trillion debt?
- Foreign governments as well as banks and private investors, state and local governments and the Federal Reserve own most of this debt, and it's held in Treasury securities, bills and bonds. Foreign governments and private investors are one of the biggest holders of the public debt, owning around $7.7 trillion.

- This number does not includes state and local debt.

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America is in debt to which governments specifically and which private investors specifically. Blackrock ? Vangard ?

E4. Current inflation and cost of living pressures are all energy cost related. Lower the cost of energy to the end consumer, and one deals with inflation as well as producing increasing economic activity and growth.

Power prices, with the greed is good middleman removed, and retailed direct from generator to you. Will halve and halve again the cost of electrical energy.

Choosing MSR nuclear waste burning technology solves the waste problem while producing energy prices that could be as low as 1 cent PKWH. Surely that's worth doing/providing.

Moreover, nuclear energy at that price allows one to economically turn seawater into all manner of cost competitive hydrocarbons/fuel, plastics and fertilizers with well-known, established and proven science.

And allows every country on the planet to get out from under the greed is good fossil fuel barons and end energy created inflation/energy related economic hardship.

Everything we use, buy, make has an energy component, put the price of energy up and everything else goes up! Except maybe wages and salaries!

Every western style economy rest solely on just two economic pillars, energy and capital! Energy has never been more costly and capital costs are also going through the roof as we head for a perfect economic storm! As the two economic pillars that support us are pulled out from under/wrecked.

If we would retire debt, then we need unapparelled economic growth. And allow that growth to do what it did before and cancel/retire debt. And the only tool in the economic toolbox to do that, is lower energy costs/prices! MSR thorium/nuclear waste burners.

It's the economy stupid, quote unquote.
Alan B.