There is always the possibility of defeat. Victory is not certain just because egotists want something to happen. And opposition to what you want is not 'negative' because it doesn't fall in with what you want. What is 'negative' to one person is 'positive' to another. I, for instance, believe that this Voice junk policy would have an extremely negative effect on democracy if it passed. And, I deem the Opposition to be idiots for wanting "details" of something that should never have been thought up in the first place.

I'll agree with Compton on that much: both parties are rubbish and not to be trusted.

Positive and practical posts from Taswegian, DKit42 and Bernie Masters.

Adding one more layer of government?
Adding more complexity to the terrible complex we already have?
Allowing some of us to be heard while the rest of us are never heard?

Say 'NO'!

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On the other hand, maybe sneaking a request/petition through an aboriginal friend, or otherwise bribing an aboriginal person, could help where nothing else does...

"A senior Warlpiri Elder says the Yuendumu community will not be able to heal from the death of Kumanjayi Walker until they are able to spill the blood of his killer, Constable Zach Rolfe, in a form of traditional justice known as “payback”. Northern Territory News

Payback still exists in some outback communities, apparently. Anyone for 'voicing' that to Parliament. Humbugging is still popular, too

I won’t vote, and I don’t care. (Myself and the other forty percent of the country that are smart enough to know, a vote matters for nothing).

Hmmm,

The current draft wording is:

"There shall be a body, to be called the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice

The Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice may make representations to Parliament and the Executive government on matters relating to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Peoples

The Parliament shall, subject to this Constitution, have power to make laws with respect to the composition, functions, powers and procedures of the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice."

The author feels it should be a lot more prescriptive, far more so than most other sections of the Constitution.

The 67 referendum changes were very simple and I thought that was partially why they worded and were so accepted.

I'm not convinced that the racist and divisive negativity is that widespread outside of Facebook cliques and forums like this that it warrants moving away from the draft words.

However time will tell.

Steele Redux, what matters that are proposed to Government by a Voice that Government don't already know? Is Albanese ignorant of what Aboriginals need, or does he not listen to Aboriginal Senators in Parliament?

What issues are new on Aboriginal affairs that a Voice will bring to notice? It is another attempt at Sorry that has been said before by other Labor politicians. Those forming the powers of the Voice are themselves not in need of a Voice to Parliament, they obviously have a voice informing Albanese.