That is the whole point. That the Voice will
stand as an advisory body on laws and programs\
that affect our Indigenous people. That laws
that affect them will be made
inconsultation with them. That they will not be ignored and
simply have laws made for them without their consultation.
It's a fair request - considering that to date they were
not consulted - and laws were made for them - including ones
that were racist.

Foxy stop making general statements without facts - What Australian laws are racist as you claim?

Steel, you said, "The Australian Council of Social Service is a national advocate supporting people affected by poverty, disadvantage and inequality, and the peak council for community services nationally."

Do they not represent exactly what affects aboriginals in the same position? That body is not enshrined in the Constitution as proposed by a Voice. The Parliament can appoint a body to represent aboriginal needs it does not need a Vote on the Constitution. Once it is enshrined in the constitution it is there as a permanent body and cannot be easily removed if taken over by half caste radicals.

Josephus,

I want you to do your own research. I am not going to
spoon-feed you. I want you to educate yourself about
our First People - there's plenty of information on the web.
It's there for anybody to find. All you have to do is
Google it. There are facts to be had. The Constitution has
specific laws just for Aboriginal people and they are
discriminatory laws. Look them up for yourself. To me
it just sounds like all you want is to keep putting Indigenous
people down. I'm not going to play your game.

Josephus,

Were you born in the United States?

You sound like a hillbilly type who's
migrated here. And probably a Trump supporter to boot.

Having “Indigenous Citizens elected by Indigenous Voters” as members of the Voice seems fine in principle, but I am not convinced it’s a best method.
Rhian,
That's exactly my view also and, not due to ideology, it's because of experience & evidence !
Does Senator Lidia Thorpe look like someone who misses the traditional Aborigine way of life ?
Her complexion & features suggest 99.99% caucasian blood line.

Josephus.

You state the main point exactly as it is, not only is but also historically.

ATSIC short history.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aboriginal_and_Torres_Strait_Islander_Commission

ATSIC was the well meaning attempt to achieve what now, with the voice, will fail miserably for the same reasons. Nepotism, rorts and abysmal failure of self governing Aboriginal institutions.

What Aboriginals are most in need of, the thirty billion PA, to land on the bottom where it can best serve the physical needs of the group.

The voice is nothing about that critical physical aspect most in need of addressing. And how prescient of you to point that out.

But I fear, the path is deep and wide , leading to our cabin. As with gay marriage that interminably rolled on for years, until the worn out population rolled over to it for the sake of peace.

This voice nonsense will follow the same worn path; over and over and over until it becomes legitimised not by merits but simply through boredom of the masses.

In the end, your vote is worthless!