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Christmas, a time to welcome the creator of the world : Comments

By Peter Sellick, published 23/12/2022

You can see how the idea that belief in God as creator is a matter of faith and not science because the assertion that Jesus is the Word of God made flesh is not open to scientific investigation.

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Multiculturalism, diversity, CRT -have no practical use whatsoever. They are just feel-good ideas, dreamt up by guilt-ridden white people. Because of the weakness inherent in these ideas, and the acceptance of the lie that white is bad, non-white people are now putting-the-boot-in into us, saying the most racist, insulting rubbish about white people - and getting away with it.

Would a bunch of bloody idiots you Lefties are.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 26 December 2022 8:17:44 AM
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I'll try hard not to preach but really - who of us goes around
feeling guilty? Who of us thinks that white is bad? Or that
someone is putting the boot into them? Those kind of feelings
to most of us would be somewhat paranoid and unhinged to say
the least.

Who do we know personally that goes around spouting racist,
insulting, rubbish? Well I guess we've all encountered
these swamp monsters who lean towards the dark instead of
the light. Thankfully, these people are in a minority in this
country.

As for pigeon-holing people into Left and Right categories?

Most people's views aren't set in concrete as a rule. Most
people are rational and their positions on things can be
mixed - leaning towards being more broad-minded on some
issues while being conservative on others. We have to allow
for individual differences - views are so subjective. We
should not tar everyone with the one brush. Telling them
"You're a Leftie," or worse. Look at the whole person -
instead of the views they may have at a particular time.

I remember telling an elderly lady - "But your views were
different on that yesterday." To which she smiled and
replied - "I was in a different mood then!
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 26 December 2022 8:44:40 AM
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Dear Foxy,

«I feel that your concerns about Australia's religious
institutions on the whole are unwarranted.»

I have not written specifically about Australian institutions.

My concerns are that some institutions continue to be called or thought of as "religious" or "a religion" long after they ceased serving the people with religion, thus can give religion and God a bad reputation, causing people to say things like "religion is poison" based on behaviours that have nothing to do with religion.

«Australia is a secular country with a very high degree of religious
freedom and religious diversity.»

Wonderful, but does it include the freedom to mislead/defraud people by claiming a religious status for operations that are no longer religious (or never were, like Scientology)?

«Even King Charles in his pre-recorded message paid tribute
to religious organisations praising them for their work
during the UK's ongoing cost of living crisis.»

His Majesty is not an expert on spiritual matters and can be misled like any ordinary person.
The organisations he praised may indeed be praiseworthy, but it does not automatically make them religious.

«His message ended with a rendition of - "O Little Town of
Bethlehem," performed by the choir of St. George's Chapel.»

That is beautiful indeed, but not automatically religious.

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Dear David F.,

«I consider faith a vice.»

Faith in physical matters is indeed a vice.

Based on the verse, "Do not put the Lord your God to the test as you did at Massah." [Deuteronomy 6:16],
the Talmudic Rabbis concluded that it is sinful to rely on miracles, that whenever there is a material danger one should only take material evidence into consideration.

Faith is crucial in spiritual matters, but religion has no role, and indeed no interest, in describing the material world: those who care about material facts should investigate them using material science.

«One thing I like about religion is the beauty of some of the associated music. Bach, Rimsky-Korsakov, Bloch, Tchaikovsky and others give me a feeling akin to awe.»

Wonderful, but whether it is indeed religious-based needs to be checked on a case-by-case basis.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 26 December 2022 10:03:08 AM
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Dear Yuyutsu,

I consider faith in spiritual matters a vice. I believe one should demand proof for any statement whether in the material or spiritual realm. I think the inventions of spiritual matters are nonsense - god or gods and associated rubbish. I enjoy beautiful music and really don't care whether it is religious or not. If insights are valid it doesn't whether they arise from religion.

As far as giving God a bad reputation God has been called the most unpleasant character in all fiction. In Joshua God calls for genocide. God, the stinker, has given himself a bad reputation. If one wants to lead a decent life and follow where reason leads one can start by eliminating such nonsense as a belief in a god or any other supernatural manifestation. Be kind and question.
Posted by david f, Monday, 26 December 2022 11:06:48 AM
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Foxy

Don't worry about it. You really don't need to comment on my posts - or anyone else's, even the topic, if you don't like it. We all know that you don't like seeing opinions different from your own, and that you are obsessed with telling everyone that freedom to express opinions is really just for you and the two other posters with ideas similar to yours. Your claims to tolerance and belief in diversity are a sham. Stop pretending.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 26 December 2022 11:13:09 AM
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ttbn,

You amaze me, at one time you were saying in a backhanded way that; "unhealthy comments", those that didn't agree with your opinions and beliefs, should not be permitted on this Forum" It appeared that you thought it would be a good idea if you should have the position of a 'Forum Moderator' as well. I'm sure you'll say I was reading you wrong, maybe I was.
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 26 December 2022 12:34:34 PM
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