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Christmas, a time to welcome the creator of the world : Comments

By Peter Sellick, published 23/12/2022

You can see how the idea that belief in God as creator is a matter of faith and not science because the assertion that Jesus is the Word of God made flesh is not open to scientific investigation.

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Less than half of Australians are Christian (43.9%). There are a few Muslims (3.2%) and a few Hindus (2.7%).

Religion does not rate very highly in Australia. Not enough to warrant comment, really. A big victory for the Left.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 25 December 2022 7:55:51 AM
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Not much hope for the Christian movement with its own invention of a Christ to match the onward march of the Roman Empire.

Maybe a bit more honesty about this point would add the proper ingredients of a believable human centric religion.

Till then, we’ll await the rainbow rulers to blow up St Mary’s Cathedral, as a victory sign before the start of the next Gay Mardi Gras from its front doors.

Let us all celebrate the birth of the believable Christ.
Posted by diver dan, Sunday, 25 December 2022 8:48:09 AM
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Religious institutions continue to play a large role
in Australian society. For example, primary and secondary
schools, hospitals, aged-care facilities and of course
charity organisations are owned and funded by religious
organisations.

Christianity is currently still the dominant religion in
Australia, introduced by British settlers at colonisation.

There's always been a degree of religious diversity in
the country. However, it wasn't until the abolition of the
White Australia Policy in the 1970s that non-European
communities were able to significantly establish themselves
and grow in numbers. Since then the country has been
growing in the diversity of non-Christian religions.

We can be proud of the high degree of religious freedom
and religious diversity
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 25 December 2022 9:34:22 AM
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Why the hell would anyone be proud, or even accepting of religious diversity. It is a sure recipe for a Kosovo type catastrophe in the future.
Posted by Hasbeen, Sunday, 25 December 2022 10:53:45 AM
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Dear Foxy,

«Religious institutions continue to play a large role
in Australian society. For example, primary and secondary
schools, hospitals, aged-care facilities and of course
charity organisations are owned and funded by religious
organisations.»

Schools, hospitals, aged-care facilities, even charity organisations I believe, need to pass some periodic (annual, bi-annual, etc.) accreditation process to check whether they still provide what they were set up to provide.

But what about religious institutions?
They may have done so in the past, but are they still providing religion for their congregations and God-seekers?
Had there been an appropriate periodic accreditation process, many churches, I am afraid, would not pass the test which would allow them to continue to call themselves "religious". They could still run as social clubs...
Posted by Yuyutsu, Sunday, 25 December 2022 12:08:45 PM
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Religious wars accompanied the invention of monotheism by nature intolerant.. Swinburne wrote a poem in the voice of a Roman who was saddened by the Roman proclamation of the Christian faith.

Hymn to Proserpine (After the Proclamation in Rome of the Christian Faith)

Vicisti, Galilæe.

…O Gods dethroned and deceased, cast forth, wiped out in a day!
From your wrath is the world released, redeemed from your chains, men say.

New Gods are crowned in the city; their flowers have broken your rods;
They are merciful, clothed with pity, the young compassionate Gods.
But for me their new device is barren, the days are bare;

… [He comforts himself with the thought that Christianity like other religions will pass. I derive similar comfort]

Yet thy kingdom shall pass, Galilean, thy dead shall go down to thee dead.
Of the maiden thy mother men sing as a goddess with grace clad around;



Ye are Gods, and behold, ye shall die, and the waves be upon you at last.
In the darkness of time, in the deeps of the years, in the changes of things,
Ye shall sleep as a slain man sleeps, and the world shall forget you for kings.
Though the feet of thine high priests tread where thy lords and our forefathers trod,
Though these that were Gods are dead, and thou being dead art a God,
Though before thee the throned Cytherean be fallen, and hidden her head,
Yet thy kingdom shall pass, Galilean, thy dead shall go down to thee dead.

{He can escape the grasp of Christianity and the intolerant world it ushers in by the sleep of death]

I shall die as my fathers died, and sleep as they sleep; even so.
For the glass of the years is brittle wherein we gaze for a span;
A little soul for a little bears up this corpse which is man.
So long I endure, no longer; and laugh not again, neither weep.
For there is no God found stronger than death; and death is a sleep.

[Read the entire poem for its sheer beauty]
Posted by david f, Sunday, 25 December 2022 12:20:34 PM
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