David f, why don't you join a Nation of atheists rather than a nation built on Christian morality and laws? You would not have to deal with the ignorant theists by trying to prove your case for atheism? God is not an external and remote being, God is internal to all Creation to create change in the DNA of life.

Dear Josephus,

I appreciate living in a country with people of differing opinions on different matters expressing those opinions freely. The Australian Constitution mentions neither Christ nor Christianity so I think that people in Australia are free to have any opinions concerning religion that they choose. You are free to believe in God. I am free not to believe. You don’t have to adopt my viewpoint, and I don’t have to adopt yours. There is no evidence that God has anything to do with our DNA. However, since you mention DNA I assume you are aware of the role it plays in our being.

Perhaps you would be interested in the religious views of Crick who worked with Watson to discover the structure of DNA.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC535570/

“Francis Crick was an evangelical atheist. He believed that scientific understanding removed the need for religious explanations of natural phenomena. From James Watson's and his early work, the structure of DNA explained the origins of life. This was a starting point; from the elucidation of the structure of DNA, there was an explosion, a massive diversity of science that in part removed the need to postulate a creator or a creation myth. Francis still felt that life was no less astonishing just because it was biological and natural in origin. He had a consistent and completely rational world view without a need to invoke vitalism, or any non-material force (M. Crick 2004). And in the last decades of his life, he applied this philosophy to consciousness.”

I am not an evangelical atheist. I am an atheist and mention my views but don't expect or pressure you to adopt them.

Josephus,

Why don't you join some fudo Christian cult, if you haven't already done so, where your bigoted intolerance is welcomed. What "Christian morality" are you referring to, the raping and buggering of children which has been the common practice of the Christian faith in Australia since 1788! I have asked you before, and you don't have the guts to answer; How many Paedophiles have been uncovered in YOUR Church? Then we can gauge YOUR Churches morality, which I suspect is rather non-existent.

p/s Josephus, you wont even name what Church you are a member of, you must be ashamed of their past record on "morality".

Dear Paul1405,

I wish to disassociate myself from your attack on Josephus. As far as I know he has no connection with pedophiles and it is wrong of you to bring that into our discussion. He attacked me for my atheism as though I had no right to my views and should not be in Australia. I found that objectionable. Although he is intolerant to me I don’t have to be intolerant in return.

Connecting him with sexual abuse of children is wrong. I can defend my views, but it should be an honest defense. Bringing in ugly practices that Josephus may have no connection with is unfair to Josephus. Let us argue fairly.

Josephus has a right to his views, and I have a right to mine. Josephus, you, Paul and I are human beings and should be considerate to each other.

Paul1405, Christian morality has no condolence with sexual immorality, read the Christian scriptures. My religious affiliation has been with many denominations except Roman Catholic, Mormon and Charismatic. Though I class myself as a New Testament Church member.

Communist China and North Korea are examples of practicing atheism as a Nation. That is the morality of atheism, the religious opinions of individuals are to be eradicated as the Unity of the State is more important than personal views.

Twain's question was answered by by Charles Darwin, another historical figure of some importance who wrote a weighty tome. Now it's been answered its nothing but a rhetorical question and irrelevant question. What will I do while I am here is more interesting.

>Especially, older Australians will have the opportunity to return to the work force

As someone who is now 56, who quit full time work at 30 and quit part time work at 35, the only thing that would make me contemplate suicide is 1. forced to watch a Coronation, or 2. having to return to work. Work is where you go to waste your life and that's a horror to big to contemplate.