Yuyutsu

There is more to life than Niki boots mate!

We could probable make room for forty million refugees from the losing war in Ukraine, but realistically, another thirty million Han Chinese from Taiwan is sending Chinese in the wrong direction.

Australia should be the example I would think; with a little over two percent of the Taiwanese population true indigenous, the argument against a Chinese take over of Taiwan is very thin on the ground, it’s over before it starts, and has been for too many years.

It’d be like the UN insisting on all immigrants past and present get out of Australia and hand it back to a similar two percent of Australian Aborigines, the rightful owners we are told continually and repeatedly by PM Mummy’s Boy and his green slime cohorts!

Dan

Dear Dan,

Of all OLO members, you should know best who the earth belongs to: God alone!

“The land must not be sold permanently, because the land is mine and you reside in my land as foreigners and strangers.“ [Leviticus 25:23]

I don't give a hoot about indigenousness or otherwise - there are PEOPLE there in Taiwan, happy families, people who live in freedom, people who worship God: assuming you would hate being enslaved yourself and barred from worshiping God, would you allow your neighbour to be enslaved by the evil CCP and ordered to worship this Xi monster alone? Have you no mercy?

“But the Lord said, "You have been concerned about this plant, though you did not tend it or make it grow. It sprang up overnight and died overnight. And should I not have concern for the great city of Nineveh, in which there are more than a hundred and twenty thousand people who cannot tell their right hand from their left—and also many animals?"“ [Jonah 4:10-11]

Yuyutsu

Mmm. Yes but.

The Kurukshetra War will be left in the shade of the cataclysmic war over Taiwan.

And I’m not God, but I can easily see for myself , land rights of the Chinese intruders of Taiwan who now claim land ownership and project the theft as a “right” , (which your argument backs up), are not the real reason for US aggression are they.

As usual, we are fed a lie backed up with jingoistic propaganda aimed at making the you and i’s of this world willing captors and sacrificial lambs to the inevitable slaughter as consequence.

And since I’m a firm believer that my own land rights in Australia have been usurped by the greed of Capitalism, branding me as an immigrants son, a usurper of Native title, I care SFA about private land ownership issues in Taiwan.

The only God to capture Bidens interest, is the batten of US hegemony over the world, carried to It’s inevitable doom by this fool insistent on dragging everybody with him.

There is no win for us in backing US Capitalist interest in Taiwan. Chiang Kai-shek has been resurrected from the ashes, and he actually had a brain!

Dan

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Here are the facts as I understand them :
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November 26, 1943
The Cairo Declaration :

President Roosevelt, Generalissimo Chiang Kai-Shek and Prime Minister Churchill, together with their respective military and diplomatic advisers, have completed a conference in North Africa. The following general statement was issued:

“The several military missions have agreed upon future military operations against Japan.

The three great Allies expressed their resolve to bring unrelenting pressure against their brutal enemies by sea, land, and air. This pressure is already rising.

“The three great Allies are fighting this war to restrain and punish the aggression of Japan.

They covet no gain for themselves and have no thought of territorial expansion. It is their purpose that Japan, shall be stripped of all the islands in the Pacific which she has seized or occupied since the beginning of the first World War in 1914, and that all the territories Japan has stolen from the Chinese, such as Manchuria, Formosa, and the Pescadores, shall be restored to the Republic of China. Japan will also be expelled from all other territories which she has taken by violence and greed. The aforesaid three great powers, mindful of the enslavement of the people of Korea, are determined that in due course Korea shall become free and independent.

“With these objects in view the three Allies, in harmony with those of the United Nations at war with Japan, will continue to persevere in the serious and prolonged operations necessary to procure the unconditional surrender of Japan.”
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Potsdam Declaration
Proclamation Defining Terms for Japanese Surrender
Issued, at Potsdam, July 26, 1945 :

“Article 8 :

The terms of the Cairo Declaration shall be carried out and Japanese sovereignty shall be limited to the islands of Honshu, Hokkaido, Kyushu, Shikoku and such minor islands as we determine.”

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The status of Taiwan was to become uncertain after events in 1945. While the Republic of China forces in Taihoku (today's Taipei) accepted the surrender of Japanese troops in Taiwan, the province was put under the administrative control of the Republic of China (ROC) in 1945 by the United Nations Relief and Rehabilitation Administration, no treaty made specific references to Taiwanese sovereignty. The position of the People's Republic of China (PRC) is that the ROC's (Taiwan's) sovereignty was transferred to mainland China (which became the PRC in 1949 following the communist revolution) under the terms of the Potsdam Declaration.
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In 1952, Winston Churchill said that Taiwan was not under Chinese sovereignty and the Chinese Nationalists did not represent the Chinese state, but that Taiwan was entrusted to the Chinese Nationalists as a military occupation :

UK Parliament
May 4, 1955 :

http://www.taiwanbasic.com/hansard/uk/uk1955as.htm
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Anthony Eden, who was PM of the UK from 1955 to 1957, said in 1955 that there was a difference of opinion on which Chinese authority [the PRC or the ROC] to hand it over to.
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Chiang Kai-Shek died in 1975. The Kuomintang (KMT) lost the presidency of Taiwan and its legislative majority in the 2016 election and is now in the opposition. The KMT opposes de jure Taiwan independence, Chinese unification under the "one country, two systems" framework, and any non-peaceful means to resolve the cross-strait disputes.

Originally placing high priority on reclaiming the Chinese mainland through Project National Glory, the KMT now favours a closer relationship with the PRC and seeks to maintain Taiwan's status quo under the Constitution of the Republic of China (ROC). The party also accepts the 1992 Consensus, which defines both sides of the Taiwan Strait as "one China" but maintains its ambiguity to different interpretations.

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Dear Dan,

«The Kurukshetra War will be left in the shade of the cataclysmic war over Taiwan.»

In absolute numbers of casualties, yes, but not as a proportion of world-population. Anyway, if that is what needs to happen then let it rip. I consider death to be better than slavery.

I cannot and will not speak on behalf of the Americans: whatever their reasons (if any) for protecting Taiwan (if indeed they mean it and will), I know mine, which I addressed in my previous post - and they go well beyond questions of land-ownership.

I have no interest in "backing US Capitalist interest in Taiwan" - I only want to back Taiwan and its good people.