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Hashemite Kingdom of Palestine: Gantz - de Gaulle or de Goose? : Comments

By David Singer, published 2/9/2022

Two statements made this past week by Israel's current Defence Minister– Benny Gantz – could see his run for Israel's next Prime Minister ended after it has just started.

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"Gantz told Kan Reshet Bet:

Those who, in a clear left-wing position, consider 'two states for two peoples' as a solution are living in an illusion, and those who, in a radical right-wing position, think of a state without Arabs in the West Bank, are living in a greater illusion..."

Well of course, being in the midst of an election campaign, this translates to: "Don't vote for those left of me; Don't vote for those right of me - vote for ME!"

"Gantz has apparently not heard of or read the 2022 Saudi Peace Plan published on 8 June"

Whether or not he heard of this particular scheme, he must have heard of so many other Arab plans to destroy Israel already, no big deal - some Arabs will never stop trying, but Gantz is not a fool to give them any attention: Israel will continue to survive and thrive despite them and their [presumably] Jewish collaborators.

Shihabi's particular scheme is meant to destroy Israel in two stages: first undermine its ally Jordan, then once Syria takes over the Hashemite kingdom and take positions all along Israel's long eastern border, the Russians will finish the job of dumping the Israelis in the Mediterranean sea.

Thanks - but no thanks!
Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 2 September 2022 9:57:44 AM
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WTF has Saudi got to do with any of it? De Gaulle or de Goose? De Singer or de Sanger? You silly sausage! And about as intelligent?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Friday, 2 September 2022 11:22:30 AM
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Dear Alan,

«WTF has Saudi got to do with any of it? De Gaulle or de Goose?»

Simple - the author wishes Gantz (Israel's minister of defense and Prime-Minister candidate) to follow the Saudi plan, thus become like De Gaulle who betrayed Israel.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 2 September 2022 1:59:23 PM
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The endless Crusades…Israel, the new kid on the block. Give it another thousand years or so, the neighbours will learn to ignore it.

Dan
Posted by diver dan, Saturday, 3 September 2022 7:23:53 AM
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I feel that between the Saudi and Trump plan there could be the of progress. The UN will undoubtedly spray the whole site with weed killer (as always). What have the Saudis’ to do with it?? They actually live there duh! Perhaps a pragmatic mob like the Saudis and someone from ‘outside the box’ like Trump should be listened to with a modicum of respect.
Posted by Pete S, Tuesday, 6 September 2022 5:58:33 PM
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Just a thought really, now await the vitriol I guess. How do you do it David?
Posted by Pete S, Tuesday, 6 September 2022 6:00:35 PM
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#Pete S

The motley lot of naysayers here are obviously upset that the prospect of ending the 100 years-old conflict between Arabs and Jews could come to an end if this Saudi Plan is successfully implemented.

Pity.

You think every decent person would want to see an end to the conflict - not seek to perpetuate it.
Posted by david singer, Tuesday, 6 September 2022 11:52:24 PM
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Dear David,

I notice that you moderated your words:

Until now you persistently spoke of some imaginary "100-years old Arab-Jewish conflict". Now in your reply to Pete you referred instead to "the 100 years-old conflict between Arabs and Jews".

This is getting somewhat closer to the facts:
there indeed is an about 100-year conflict in Israel, mainly between SOME who happen to be Arabs and SOME who happen to be Jews. This conflict does not in any way involve all Arabs nor all Jews, in fact not even the majorities of either. Further, some (though a minority) among the conflicted sides are not even Arabs or Jews.

This is one of many conflicts in the Middle East, by far not the most serious or dangerous one - that even before mentioning other long and more dangerous (and nuclear) conflicts elsewhere such as Russia-Ukraine, India-Pakistan and China-Taiwan/Japan.

It would be nice to see that conflict ended, but not at any cost, certainly not at the cost of the destruction of Israel, which is exactly what would happen should the Saudi scheme be accepted.

But well, perhaps that wouldn't bother you... I can't see why it would bother Shihabi either if Israel went off the map!
Posted by Yuyutsu, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 12:38:32 AM
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