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Pandemic mismanagement : Comments

By Murray Hunter, published 23/8/2022

We are now beginning to pay the price of very poor public health policy management.

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Yes AC. But only because we now move and crowd in without masks and social distance.

Moreover, the new mutant variants are far more contagious and virulent! And because we assume the vaccine protects from reinfection, which it doesn't! It might if we were all vaccinated? And stayed home for a full fortnight when infected. Had island quarantine to place those still contagious and the unvaccinated.

The new more deadly strains breed solely in the unvaccinated. Who move around as super (I'm all right Jack) spreaders. As they play covid style Russian roulette with the lives of the more vulnerable.

Living with covid is a nonsense, when we could and should have eliminated it along with the noncompliant unvaccinated. Sure they have the right to remain unvaccinated but no right to move around infecting others with a killer virus!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Tuesday, 23 August 2022 5:01:45 PM
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Those brave souls who opposed the lockdowns while they were being imposed, opined and predicted that there would be a price to pay in additional deaths due to people missing cancer therapies, failing to have regular check-ups, failing to check new symptoms etc.
In terms of suicides, the experts were pointing out that the actual suicide rate would be expected to increase over the following five years.

The daft notion that we can draw a line across lockdowns and assume that any anomalous death rates post-lockdown had nothing to do with the lockdown is infantile in the extreme. The lockdowns did and will have detrimental effects for years to come.

What SR seems to miss (deliberately or otherwise?) is that death rates went up for things unrelated to the WuFlu eg "dementia, diabetes, ischaemic heart diseases and cerebrovascular diseases also recorded some statistically significant excess mortality".
Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 23 August 2022 5:39:11 PM
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If nothing else, the antivaxer crowd showed for all the World to see how dumb people (mainly White) have become.
The Us is well & truly walking towards the end of what would normally be called civilisation. That term has been misused for the US for 50 years now. White Australia is following like a little puppy dog.
Posted by Indyvidual, Tuesday, 23 August 2022 7:09:00 PM
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Dear mhaze,

And what you deliberately miss is that those whose systems are weakened by Covid may succumb more easily from other illnesses well after they are no longer infectious.

In fact: "People who died with COVID-19 as an associated cause of death (as opposed to the underlying cause of death) are included in the without COVID-19 series."

Just because it isn't the primary cause it often is a contributing factor as clearly shown by the statistics.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Tuesday, 23 August 2022 7:22:51 PM
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Is this crap ever going to end...

Tomato Flu: What you need to know
http://www.9news.com.au/world/tomato-flu-explained-fever-what-is-it-signs-symptoms-treatment-everything-to-know/86a877f8-1720-4d74-8cb7-d2e5315daecf
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 23 August 2022 9:36:33 PM
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SR,
The data I used was based on doctor-certified deaths. Yet somehow SR, based on nothing other than his desire to ignore the facts, decides that these doctors didn't actually know the cause of death of their patient!!

But at least we've made some progress with getting SR to recognise even a part of the truth. He (SR) started off saying that the article's point that there were "many collateral deaths from lockdowns" was rubbish.
Now he's simply arguing, in his own inept fashion, over what was the cause of those "many collateral deaths from lockdowns "...a small step in the right direction.

Talking past SR, this evidence of a post-lockdown spike in excess deaths is repeated all over the world. Many countries in Europe are seeing the same phenomena as is the USA. Indeed, any jurisdiction that has reliable numbers, is seeing these spikes in excess deaths. Eventually, once the politics of lockdown is removed, clearer, more honest heads will acknowledge the cause.
Posted by mhaze, Wednesday, 24 August 2022 10:33:07 AM
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