The people responsible for the draconian lockdowns and assaults on our freedoms have not "long known" anything of the sort. That, or they did know, and deliberately set about exercising dictatorial powers over a complacent, or dumb, population.

And the scumbags are going to get away with it

My goodness what a trite, ill-researched, dog whistling, pile of poo for an opening statement.

"We have long known that there were many collateral deaths from lockdowns due to people failing to diagnose cancers and other life-threatening diseases, depression and suicides. That's not to mention the bankruptcies and families who were unable to feed themselves."

Many? Rubbish. The excess deaths figures dove into the negative in Australia during the main pandemic and lockdown periods. The suicide rates according to the Victorian Coroners Court were well down across virtually all age groups during the same. Deaths from the flu completely dropped off the page. Sure there will have been some repercussions from delayed surgeries and delayed detection of other diseases but these are certainly not reflected in the figures.

Presenting such a flawed opening premise renders the rest of the article rather neutered.

Perhaps a revision might be entertained.

It was not the pandemic that created all the aforementioned issues, but the ever widening gap between the (greed is good) haves and the have nots.

The poor just can't afford health insurance and insurance generally. Can't afford unaffordable housing and live all over the world in tin shanty towns that cannot stand natural disasters.

When all they can do is struggle day in day out just to put food on the table! Vaccinations/health care/medicine become a massive luxury few can afford.

Murray as one of the, I believe, (parasitic) privileged haves, is part of the, I'm alright Jack, (leave the blinkers on) problem?
Alan B.

Excess deaths..."The Australian Bureau of Statistics has revealed that Australia has been suffering a huge amount of excess deaths compared to the historical average since around October 2021, with figures revealing the number of Australians who have lost their lives in 2022 is 18% higher than the historical average."
http://www.australiannationalreview.com/covid-19-deaths-and-injuries/excess-adult-deaths-in-australia-on-the-rise/

"There were 4,732 more deaths than expected in the first two months of 2022."

"For all weeks in 2022 the number of deaths exceeded the upper limit of usual variation reaching statistical significance (3,105 deaths). "

"Deaths due to dementia, diabetes, ischaemic heart diseases and cerebrovascular diseases also recorded some statistically significant excess mortality in the first two months of 2022. "

http://www.abs.gov.au/articles/measuring-australias-excess-mortality-during-covid-19-pandemic-doctor-certified-deaths

A revision might be required, but not of the article.

COVID Reinfection Rate HIGHER For Vaccinated! Says Iceland Study
http://youtu.be/0U2QZtGP3kI

Dear mhaze,

Well that was even more piss weak than usual.

What are you even trying to do? Why are you comparing early this year to the period we were in lockdown while Covid was creating havoc across the world?

As stated by the ABS the age-standardised death rate for 2021 was 431.0 per 100,000, which was well below the historical average (459.0) and a bit above the rate for 2020 (424.5).

What do you thing would happen once the lockdowns ceased, the mask compliance waned and the borders were reopened? Death rates went up. Why is this so hard for you?

Yes AC. But only because we now move and crowd in without masks and social distance.

Moreover, the new mutant variants are far more contagious and virulent! And because we assume the vaccine protects from reinfection, which it doesn't! It might if we were all vaccinated? And stayed home for a full fortnight when infected. Had island quarantine to place those still contagious and the unvaccinated.

The new more deadly strains breed solely in the unvaccinated. Who move around as super (I'm all right Jack) spreaders. As they play covid style Russian roulette with the lives of the more vulnerable.

Living with covid is a nonsense, when we could and should have eliminated it along with the noncompliant unvaccinated. Sure they have the right to remain unvaccinated but no right to move around infecting others with a killer virus!
Alan B.

Those brave souls who opposed the lockdowns while they were being imposed, opined and predicted that there would be a price to pay in additional deaths due to people missing cancer therapies, failing to have regular check-ups, failing to check new symptoms etc.
In terms of suicides, the experts were pointing out that the actual suicide rate would be expected to increase over the following five years.

The daft notion that we can draw a line across lockdowns and assume that any anomalous death rates post-lockdown had nothing to do with the lockdown is infantile in the extreme. The lockdowns did and will have detrimental effects for years to come.

What SR seems to miss (deliberately or otherwise?) is that death rates went up for things unrelated to the WuFlu eg "dementia, diabetes, ischaemic heart diseases and cerebrovascular diseases also recorded some statistically significant excess mortality".

If nothing else, the antivaxer crowd showed for all the World to see how dumb people (mainly White) have become.
The Us is well & truly walking towards the end of what would normally be called civilisation. That term has been misused for the US for 50 years now. White Australia is following like a little puppy dog.

Dear mhaze,

And what you deliberately miss is that those whose systems are weakened by Covid may succumb more easily from other illnesses well after they are no longer infectious.

In fact: "People who died with COVID-19 as an associated cause of death (as opposed to the underlying cause of death) are included in the without COVID-19 series."

Just because it isn't the primary cause it often is a contributing factor as clearly shown by the statistics.

Is this crap ever going to end...

Tomato Flu: What you need to know
http://www.9news.com.au/world/tomato-flu-explained-fever-what-is-it-signs-symptoms-treatment-everything-to-know/86a877f8-1720-4d74-8cb7-d2e5315daecf

SR,
The data I used was based on doctor-certified deaths. Yet somehow SR, based on nothing other than his desire to ignore the facts, decides that these doctors didn't actually know the cause of death of their patient!!

But at least we've made some progress with getting SR to recognise even a part of the truth. He (SR) started off saying that the article's point that there were "many collateral deaths from lockdowns" was rubbish.
Now he's simply arguing, in his own inept fashion, over what was the cause of those "many collateral deaths from lockdowns "...a small step in the right direction.

Talking past SR, this evidence of a post-lockdown spike in excess deaths is repeated all over the world. Many countries in Europe are seeing the same phenomena as is the USA. Indeed, any jurisdiction that has reliable numbers, is seeing these spikes in excess deaths. Eventually, once the politics of lockdown is removed, clearer, more honest heads will acknowledge the cause.

Dear mhaze,

Spurting ink like a scared little cuttlefish hardly makes for a coherent argument.

Again here was the proposition from the article:

"We have long known that there were many collateral deaths from lockdowns due to people failing to diagnose cancers and other life-threatening diseases, depression and suicides. That's not to mention the bankruptcies and families who were unable to feed themselves."

It didn't say this was after the lockdowns finished and the virus was let run though our communities. That is unless you are now claiming the suicides have started to peak post the lockdowns or something equally stupid.

Look mate you rightly got called out posting rubbish and now are trying to cover your tracks. Time to move on.

OK SR I get it.

We are now in the phase where you realise you've talked yourself into a corner and are now wantonly mudding the water to try to salvage what you consider some self-esteem.

Seriously, no one thinks the detrimental effects of the lockdowns finished when the lockdowns finished so I'm assuming that you have sufficient grey-matter to know that too. Yet you are hanging your defence on that silly assertion. I've often mention your propensity to prefer being the clown to being wrong.

From the outset, the brave souls who opposed the lockdowns knew and said, that the effects would long outlast the actual lockdowns. Cancer numbers would rise because cancers weren't being treat and/or detected etc. Somewhere in the pages is a link I posted that showed that suicides lagged the actual cause by several years.

The lockdowns were a disaster all round. That people like you fell for the rhetoric at the time is hardly surprising given that you fall for almost all such propaganda. The only hope is that we've now learned the lesson and won't make the same monumental mistakes the next time fear and unwarranted hysteria overtakes the populace.

Just a rebuttal of the “cheap medicines being suppressed” conspiracy nonsense which marred an otherwise thoughtful piece. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2201662