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'People Power' surges back despite conservative mass media : Comments

By Andris Heks, published 30/6/2022

This time the general electorate refused to be swayed by misinformation, and shifted further to the left than the Labor Party dared to go

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Next time round, they will possibly see the error of their ways and vote the coalition back in.
Posted by VK3AUU, Thursday, 30 June 2022 9:16:49 AM
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"Next time round, they will possibly see the error of their ways and vote the coalition back in."

Hopefully not.....Ever.
Posted by ateday, Thursday, 30 June 2022 9:26:45 AM
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Politics certainly seems to have changed and we're
seeing it unfold. Hopefully, under the new leadership
it will be less of a wrecking ball and more of a builder
type of ethos in Canberra. The signs though are good
thus far. In the past half century few Australian PMs
with the exception of Gough Whitlam and Paul Keating
have had so busy a start in foreign affairs.

And its looking good. The QUAD trip was an obvious success
re-kindling ties with US Japan, India went down well -
and it indicated how our government will take on regional
policy especially with China's fresh assertiveness.

Domestically - things are also looking hopeful - with
negotiations being key. All in all if our PM can succeed
in raising the tone of politics it will be very welcome
to many voters.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 30 June 2022 10:39:00 AM
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Where is this "conservative mass media". Anyone who thinks that there is a skerrick of conservatism left in this country has to be coming from a pure communist outlook.

But remember, Mr. Heks is a creature of the ABC. He even imagines an "ultra right" section of the mass media.

The ex-Prime Minister, whom I, as a conservative, dislike and despise as Mr. Heks does, was certainly not a conservative; he was nothing; he was in cahoots with the ABC-loving Turnbull in backstabbing the only close-to-conservtive, Tony Abbott.

And yes, the Morrison government was a terrible government - because it was not conservative.

But a "scare campaign" against Labor. Of course their bloody was, and vice versa. Scare campaigns are part and parcel of election campaigns, by all politicians.

"The majority of voters not only decisively rejected the Liberal Party ….". So, people understandably wanted the Coalition out, but more voters still gave their first preferences to them than they gave to Labor. Without the preferential voting system, the Coalition would have been returned.

We are still entitled to say what we think, but Mr. Heks is talking through his ABC hat.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 30 June 2022 10:49:26 AM
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I don’t vote, so I’m not at all responsible for political outcomes which are totally outside the power of the voting classes: one day they may realise the error of their ways, and not vote for criminals: It’s not a good idea to support them.

My suggested solutions to Politicians made here on OLO, are not understood or appreciated by the timid population here.

Dan
Posted by diver dan, Thursday, 30 June 2022 11:07:43 AM
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Left right, good bad, up or down. All elections are decided in the moderate middle and on good or bad policy. As for people power, as long as there are preferences and dirty deals done in the dead of night on traded preferences, so called people power, is effectively emasculated!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Thursday, 30 June 2022 12:39:06 PM
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The people wanted a change. And they made
their voices clear. How far this will progress
we shall have to wait and see what happens next.
ttbn accuses Andris of talking through his "ABC
hat?" Well that's certainly better than talking
out of a supposed "conservative" arse. And of
course ttbn is most certainly entitled to his
incorrect opinion - like so many on this forum.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 30 June 2022 1:40:31 PM
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Menzies's liberal party if formed today would have folk like ttbn claiming it was so far to the left as to be socialist? The coalition and labor have moved more and more to the right with the coalition being fiscally conservative and socially conservative!

With new labor a shadow of that, just more socially liberal. Even so, our political parties seem to be locked into a fifties time warp and determined to get other folks (foreign investors) to do what we should be doing! And to the point where our very economic sovereignty is on the table.

I believe labor will be a one term government! Because they're are afraid to act in any way that puts the greens offside? That being so the very thing this country must have, nuclear power is off of the table! And nuclear subs even further away than ever! As is a viable and robust manufacturing sector.

To think we were once the third wealthiest nation on the planet and a creditor one at that! But then we didn't have the nonsense mantra continually parroted, i.e., the government has no business being in business.

The government was in business and built snowy hydro, most if not all power generation and the grid that served it, a bank and a telephone company, plus a couple of airlines!

Now? SFA. And the most unaffordable housing, huge homelessness and a huge rust belt where once stood a vibrant and robust manufacturing sector. We built cars and once build our own planes! But that was back in the day when energy was still affordable and could be again only more so.

We've come a long way and all downhill! Now saddled with almost unrepayable, record exponentially expanding domestic and foreign debt! And planned for expansion of both? To purchase votes?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Thursday, 30 June 2022 1:51:09 PM
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Hi Alan B.,

I'm more hopeful.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that our new government
will take this country in a new direction.
More into negotiation and working together -
even with their opposition for the good of the country.
I'm so sick of the "football mentality" of the politics
of the past. We have some of the greatest minds in this
country. If only they were put to good use?
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 30 June 2022 2:03:15 PM
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'I don't vote...' says Diver Dan. Well Dan, neither did I. For years. I didn't believe that any politician was worth voting for. They were all hypocrites and lyres as far as I could see. Then after a while, I realised that some were not so hypocritical as others, and some didn't lie quite as much as others. They all still lied and were hypocrites. So, this lead me to the conclusion that I had to vote, if only to keep the really really nasty ones out. And when one of the lesser nasty ones lies, speaks with forked tongue etc., then it is my duty to contact that person and tell them that their behavior is not acceptable. In other words - we get treated by politicians (and anyone else for that matter) the way we allow them to treat us. It is no use whinging about a politician on Facebook or OLO or anywhere else. We have to confront them directly.
Posted by Aries54, Thursday, 30 June 2022 4:59:03 PM
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Better get in a good supply of candles because if the greens have their way, a couple of hours after the sun has set and all the storages are empty that is all you will have until the sun gets going in the morning.
David
Posted by VK3AUU, Saturday, 2 July 2022 8:42:18 AM
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