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Why men kill themselves : Comments

By Bettina Arndt, published 9/5/2022

A few years earlier Wilton had given a speech to parliament pointing out that group most likely to commit suicide in this country were men like him – adult males struggling with marital separation.

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AC.

Your similarities towards AB are stark.

Your a fearful person.

And you should fear. For it is not China or Russia the enemy, but ourselves.

Poor old AB, looking for love and understanding; recognition in a ruthless world of greed; and crying for that recognition through the pages of OLO, as though OLO were a person to offer a hand and satisfy the search for that necessity of love and understanding.

But double woe, I offer him a violin to accompany his grief, which he attributes to the evil hand of others, but the offer of love is rejected!

Chip away with him AC.

Dan
Posted by diver dan, Tuesday, 10 May 2022 5:48:51 AM
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Hey diver dan,
I wouldn't necessarily say I'm a fearful person;
The only reason I posted what I did was because I know all too well the consequences of that which I posted.

I grew up an only child and my mum and dad broke up when I was little,
Which was no particular big deal, as many kids go through this.
But it was only when my dad found someone new that he shot through,
- And to add insult to injury, he failed to recognise I was impacted by this in any way,
- Which lead to me becoming a dysfunctional kid with an 'I don't care' attitude.
This put me at odds with my mum, and it was all she could to beat me every other day (back in the 70's)
- To try to control that 'I don't care' attitude and behavior all through primary school.
So the end result - I was at odds with both of my parents growing up.
Besides trouble at home, I got in trouble at school, got into drugs and trouble with the law in my teens...
- And that's about all I'm willing to say about it.

Alan B. says he wishes he had've shot through as well and started a new life.

As far as parenting goes:
What I learned is that it's a parents job to ensure their kids physical and emotional wellbeing,
- And if you fail to do this, you fail your kids.

I'm not trying to claim victimhood:
I just understand and recognise that actions have consequences.
Living through this situation as a kid, my only advice is this:
- Always be on the same page as your kids, and always have their best interests.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 12:22:01 AM
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My heart goes out to anyone who's been through a relationship
breakdown. I imagine that a relationship breakdown would
be one of the toughest experiences anyone can have.

I've never experienced this - and if it was to happen to me
I think it would be important to keep myself and my children
safe and healthy. I think it would be tempting to want to
try to hold onto someone who doesn't want to hold onto me
but it takes two to make a relationship work. So I would
try to give myself plenty of time and make every attempt
to move on for the sake of my kids.

All I could do is take it one day at a time and some days
will probably be worse than others. Hopefully with time
things will get better.

I know that I would not give up.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 10:26:16 AM
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AC

The KISS theory follows that “ bread always falls on the buttered side down”.

The added burden of childhood trauma is the powerlessness of the child to control their environment: Therefore, childhood trauma is invariably the most debilitating, with long term negative outcomes.

The simplest method for a suitably motivated politic to ameliorate the huge coat to society overall, from a product of mismanaged parenting, is to support all parents with stable and acceptable (to a good standard), their housing needs.

The current debacle of the housing market “ left to its own devices”, is actually a housing market which has no interest in social outcomes at all: It’s currently a social catastrophe.

The reason for this situation, hasn’t improved one zot further than it demonstrated its catastrophic failure to society, in the 2009 GFC. Wall Street!

Everyone except the culprits pay the price: And those struggling on the bottom rungs of the economy, viz, particularly single mothers, abandoned by not only irresponsible partners, but the Political establishment most ably to fix the problem, look the other way from it, deliberately I suggest.

The outcomes are shattered children, soon to become shattered adults.

Dan
Posted by diver dan, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 12:00:48 PM
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Well, I'm just glad so far that none of you has given me any curry for talking about my childhood.
I've never shared too much about myself in all the years I've been a member here.

And for that (not giving me grief about things I had no control of) I thank you.

I only shared it, because I thought it may have some bearing on the discussion.

You all know that pretty much any other time I comment seriously, I try to provide good solutions going forward, as I have done promoting better ideas for our society, such as I did recently with the Boxabl Casita.

The Boxabl Casita | Fully Furnished House In A Box | A House That Can Be Folded Into A Box
http://youtu.be/yCOgMYuKv2o

And ideas to build a system of double dole for full time work helping the government save money, (the job you have when you don't have a job) of which large factories in every state could build homes on production lines such as these.

I'd be happy to live in a home like this, and land is something we're not short of.

thanks again for not giving me beans.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 12:44:43 PM
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Hi Armchair Critic,

Feel free to share whatever you want.
I for one appreciate your sharing.

That's one of the things that I like about
this forum - most people are not judgemental
and often give sound advice which helps.
At least it helped me in my times of stress
and difficulty.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 2:46:45 PM
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