Christianity isn't the be-all end-of of what is good and decent.

I've got a whole family full of them and despite their claimed moral superiority, they are some of the most ignorant, self centred and horrible people you can come across.

On the outside they seem well-meaning, but peel back the covers and look underneath and what you see isn't pretty at all Aiden.

Calem's description is a strawman. Nobody's suggesting we give everything.
Aidan,
No straw men for miles on this subject. Not suggesting we give everything is irrelevant because we've already given too much. Perhaps you don't want to see that but I, as someone who's has worked for 52 years, see our Taxes splurged on people who criticise us whilst they're not moving a finger towards pulling their own weight.
Those who don't belong to that group aren't saying anything & just do their job in appreciation of what Australians have enabled them to live a good life.
They never make the news because they're decent folk !

Armchair,
>Christianity isn't the be-all end-of of what is good and decent.
True, and I'd be quite suspicious of anyone who thought it was.

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individual,
>No straw men for miles on this subject.
Very impressive - you've actually achieved Trumpian levels of preposterousness!

>Not suggesting we give everything is irrelevant because we've already given too much
Calling out lies is never irrelevant, and we give far less than is needed.

>Perhaps you don't want to see that but I, as someone who's has worked for 52 years, see our Taxes
>splurged on people who criticise us whilst they're not moving a finger towards pulling their own weight.

Firstly, CRITICISING US IS NOT A BAD THING! It is important for us to know the truth, and we can't do so when everyone stays silent about the problems.
Secondly, when people aren't pulling their own weight we should find out why, and help them to remedy the problem. But it's hypocritical to complain about people not moving a finger towards pulling their own weight when we've tied their hands!

it's hypocritical to complain about people not moving a finger towards pulling their own weight when we've tied their hands!
Aidan,
People like myself haven't tied their hands, people like you have & now you blame us for it & demand that we just keep giving more than is morally good !
My lot aren't dreaming up social engineering & PC which resulted in destroying whole cultures & generations, your lot's doing that !

individual,
When I said "we" I meant Australia as a nation. Federal governments have been tying the refugees' hands, and that's been true no matter whether Liberal or Labor are in charge.

If you think we're giving what is more than morally good, you have a very serious moral deficiency! Australia's spending very little on helping refugees, and far more on cruelly deterring them.

And although I've alway been opposed to PC, your claim that it and social engineering have destroyed whole cultures and generations is laughable.

your claim that it and social engineering have destroyed whole cultures and generations is laughable.
Aidan,
Displaced people aren't laughable in my eyes. What is laughable is people with your mentality constantly excusing perpetrators & blaming people who want to prevent that !