The National Forum   Donate   Your Account   On Line Opinion   Forum   Blogs   Polling   About   
The Forum - On Line Opinion's article discussion area



Syndicate
RSS/XML


RSS 2.0

Main Articles General

Sign In      Register

The Forum > Article Comments > Ottawa’s suicidal climate plans a cautionary tale for governments everywhere > Comments

Ottawa’s suicidal climate plans a cautionary tale for governments everywhere : Comments

By Tom Harris and Jay Lehr, published 19/4/2022

Politicians leading the City of Ottawa have fallen hook, line and sinker for climate alarmism and, as a consequence, Canada's national capital is on the verge of a deadly self-induced crisis.

  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. 2
  4. All
I agree we need to do something about human caused climate change. And given we use the brains we were born with, by transitioning to nuclear energy. And not conventional nuclear energy, but rather, MSR thorium, now that the bugs in the prototype have been ironed out.

And because it's safer and cheaper than all the other available alternatives including renewables. Always providing we can keep it out of the hands of price gouging energy barons! And also control freak union heavies!

This means we should roll these things out as co-op owned and controlled projects and given this is the case? See energy prices as low as 1 cent PKWH. An essential requirement will be government involvement as facilitators and project off budget financiers!

This will do 2 things, address climate change and turbocharge the economy at the same time!

It will need a government not in the pocket of the unions or energy barons! And that is where the real problem and road blocks exist! Until this factor changes! We will remain on track for an unstoppable extermination event!

If we want MSR thorium, we can obtain finished reactors in twelve months. We can put our people in place with the build so they can be up to speed with operation and maintenance as they're installed!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Tuesday, 19 April 2022 10:28:26 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
We in Australia know all about "suicidal climate plans". Both parties, plus the Greens, and so called independent Voices think that we want to be part of a Jonestown-type mass suicide cult brought on by 'climate action'.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 19 April 2022 10:38:34 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Hi Alan B. Thanks for your comments. However good and important nuclear power is, it is not a "solution" to climate change since, while it does reduce humanity's CO2 emissions, those emissions are not a major contributor to climate change.

Why promote nuclear as a solution to something that is not a problem? I think we should promote nuclear because it is reliable, cost effective and safe, not because of some fictitious contribution to affecting the climate
Posted by Tom Harris - Canada, Tuesday, 19 April 2022 3:05:00 PM
Find out more about this user Visit this user's webpage Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
I very much hope it is a tale people listen to. Unfortunately renewable energy is a horrible way to power a national grid, yet its hype gets uncritical approval. Light water reactors could have been built here over forty years ago and could have been providing cheap energy today and probably for another half century at least. I find irony in thinking that the Greens and the ALP were such vocal and violent opponents of a safe and clean technology that would have met some of their objectives to avert their imagined climate catastrophe. Even more ironic that many are more rabidly anti-nuclear today. Climate change ideology was born when socialism became an undeniable failure and the commies needed another bs ideology to paint liberal democracy as the font of evil.
Posted by Fester, Tuesday, 19 April 2022 4:18:43 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Fester. Agree! However, conventional nuclear comes with the usual plethora of energy barons and parasites.

MSR thorium however is still free of these profit demanding paper shufflers.

And thorium is as common as lead, whereas, uranium is as scarce as platinum and still requires expensive enrichment to isolate U235. the fissile component. And the fuel rods need changing every four years or so, without companion reprocessing. And meltdowns are still possible if for any reason there is a power outage.

Whereas, in MSR thorium, a power outage will incur an automatic and safe shutdown due to passive safety design features! In fact it's walk away safe.

The uranium moguls make their money from their billion dollar enrichment. Enrichment refined metal thorium does not require!

And given just 8 grams costing around $100.00 to mine and refine would be enough to power your house and car for 100 years. Meaning, you could power house and car for a $1.00 a year.

So, when I talk about MSR thorium power that could cost as little as 1 cent PKWH I'm not ruling out a handsome profit for the operator! And based on volume consumption given the low cost!

See thorium in five minutes.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Tuesday, 19 April 2022 7:57:17 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
We had the same Idiots in SA Labor.
Posted by shadowminister, Wednesday, 20 April 2022 5:35:03 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Alan,

If you want thorium reactors you will have to wait for the prototypes to be tested and the final designs to be developed. I suspect that as renewables continue to fall short of the hype, nuclear will get a bit more interest. In the meantime I think it a shame we don't copy the PRC and build coal fired power stations that could be converted to nuclear if a viable reactor were developed. I very much enjoy the talks given by this fellow:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbeJIwF1pVY
Posted by Fester, Wednesday, 20 April 2022 1:06:41 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
It seems to be gradually sinking in that the conventional theory
on global warming is all wrong.
Agree Alan, how are the Indians going with their thorium reactor ?

Back about 40 years ago someong mistook the rising temperature to be
caused by burning coal from the early 1800s through to burning oil
today. They made a fundamental mistake;
Most of the temperature rise is caused by a natural process which
caused the temperature to rise from about the 1400s.
This process is caused by the following;
The sun's radience variation.
The earth's orbit around the sun.
The rotation of the earth's orbit around the sun.
The tilt of the earth axis.
The sunspot cycle.
The variation in the intensity of the sunspot cycle.
The expulsion of plasma from the sunspots.
The disturbance of the earth Magnetic Field due to the plasma.
The deflection of cosmic rays away from earth caused by change in magnetic field.
The change in the cloud cover of earth caused by cosmic rays.
The change in cloud cover causing warming and cooling and reflection of sun into space.
Natural co2 causes a small temperature change.

All this results in a cycle that varies in length between 500 and 1000 years.

The cyclic warming occurred in the Minoen, Roman, Medieval, Maunder Minimum, and modern times.

We are currently near the peak according to J Kauppenin.
It should start to be noticible that it is getting colder in 100 years.
Doesn't that all seem more likely than that man can control the climate ?
Posted by Bazz, Wednesday, 20 April 2022 3:15:02 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
I spoke to a online friend from Canada about the situation over there.
He's over in the oil rich eastern side of the country, is just about to head out to fight fires during the summer.
He says that everyone there HATES Trudeau, that his government could not even secure a single candidate in ANY of the eastern regions.

And that the government robs them blind of the natural resources there.
Their part of the country is essentially paying for everything, and nobody there wants anything to do with Trudeau.
They all want to secede.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 20 April 2022 5:06:55 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. 2
  4. All

About Us :: Search :: Discuss :: Feedback :: Legals :: Privacy