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Australia's dismal China diplomacy : Comments

By David Lee, published 14/4/2022

He criticises the Gillard government for allowing President Barack Obama to announce in 2011 his US Pacific Pivot in the Australian parliament.

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Do we really need another anti-America, anti- Trump book to 'get' "the best ideas in academia, government and public diplomacy"?

The "hostile relationship with the rising power of the People’s Republic of China and away from the friendly and constructive association that was built by Labor …".

Labor could certainly be said to want to be friendly with the Communist dictatorship, even now; even though all the 'hostility' (to the country they want to lead) comes from the CCP dictators and homicidal maniacs.

But, it is highly unlikely that unknown "Carrillo Gantner ….trained as an actor", also described as 'arty farty', will be able to 'counter' Clive Hamilton's excellent publications. And that he was "an active participant" in setting the Chinese trap we are now in, with no qualifications to be involved … well, what can be said about such a bizarre occurrence!

It seems that some Australians need to see Sydney looking like Kiev looks now before they get the message about the Chinese Communist Party and its truly awful leader.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 14 April 2022 8:56:17 AM
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Got the direction that the author(s) are coming from .

China is a big lovable and cuddly Panda .

A Panda with the worlds largest Army ,and Navy .

Coming to a country near us , soon .
Posted by Aspley, Thursday, 14 April 2022 11:21:40 AM
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Yes, the breakdown in the relationship not all China's fault. But some of the blame must be shared by, shoot from the lip, Morrison.

Nonetheless, a huge overreaction by China to the P.M's desire to have an inquiry into the origins of covid.

And their moves in the Pacific haven't helped either!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Thursday, 14 April 2022 12:09:14 PM
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I think China's attitude to its neighbours such as Vietnam and
the Phillipines shows us all we need to know.
The Central Kingdom has not changed its spots, just adapted to
the current scene. Just watch the developments with the Belt & Roads
schemes in Asia and Africa. I can hear the chains clanking from here.
Posted by Bazz, Thursday, 14 April 2022 1:22:06 PM
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Carrillo Gantner is spot on with his assessment of Australia's failures with its China relationship and the Morrison "shoot from the lip" diplomacy. In typical right wing Neanderthal style ttbn describes Gantner as the "arty farty" type, despite his reasoning and long experience with China matters, can't have these left wing arty farty types telling us anything. Bazz if Vietnam and the Phillipines (Not sure where the Phillipines actually is, is it a new country where they worship the dead remains of Prince Phillip.) had been an inch or two closer to the Yanks they would have been fully incorporated long ago.
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 15 April 2022 6:03:24 AM
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Huh ! It is in Oceana.
Posted by Bazz, Friday, 15 April 2022 4:26:05 PM
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Leaders decide our policy positions relative to China. And the best leader is one who is a big picture person able to delegate and allow others to be across the minutia!

Why have dogs if you do your own barking? And many right wing media outlets know this and still set out to get a gotcha moment based on unimportant 0.1%, 4% minutia? The economy? Well elbow has a degree in economics and that's more than you can say for (shoot from the lip) (I don't hold a hose) Morrison?

I believe our policy to ward China is to speak softly and carry a big stick in a velvet glove. The Chinese equivalent is, softly, softly catchee monkey.

Our stick at the moment is barely a fig leaf and needs some serious beefing up before we take China to task for anything, even her, belt and road adventures in our backyard!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Friday, 15 April 2022 5:27:54 PM
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ttbn said "Labor could certainly be said to want to be friendly with the Communist dictatorship, even now; even though all the 'hostility' (to the country they want to lead) comes from the CCP dictators and homicidal maniacs. "

Answer- You're wrong- it's not even now- it's especially now. ;) .
Posted by Canem Malum, Friday, 15 April 2022 6:29:05 PM
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Get friendly? Like smile at the crocodile that wants to invite you to dinner, where you are the main course?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Saturday, 16 April 2022 11:10:00 AM
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