Paul1405,

<<Much of the Biblical account of Jesus from his birth at Christmas to his death at Easter is a hodge-podge mix of fiction and reality>>

That's a statement loaded with your anti-Jesus presuppositions. Sydney-based ancient historian, Dr. Paul Barnett, who has taught history at Macquarie University does not agree with you. See his research in The Birth of Christianity: The First Twenty Years (Eerdmans 2005). He cited Meyer who wrote: "For the history of Christianity . . . we have the completely inestimable advantage . . . of having access to the portrayal of the beginning stages of development directly from the pen of one of the co-participants. That alone ensures foe the author an eminent place among the significant historians of world history" (in Barnett 2005:204).

Foxy,

You say: <<Bart D. Ehrman has not turned his back on any values. He's an American New Testament scholar focusing on
textual criticism of the New Testament>>

His values are no longer those of an evangelical Christian scholar, which they were previously.

He HAS CHANGED HIS VALUES.

SteeleRedux,

<<Well I've gone and had a quick look through your PHD and quite clearly you did no such thing. In essence it is just a review of another person's work.>>

Would you say you have a fair comprehension of my 400pp narrative and 60pp of Works Consulted by your "quick look" through my dissertation? What a joke! I exposed John Dominic Crossan's presuppositions that were damaging in reaching his final conclusions.

OzSpen,

Prof. Bart Ehrman has not turned his back on his
values. As I wrote previously he is an American
New Testament scholar focusing on textual criticism
of the New Testament, the historical Jesus and
the origins and development of Christianity. He publishes
his findings.

And by doing so he demonstrates his strong professional ethics
rooted in honesty about his work. He accepts constructive
criticism and he treats others with respect. All these are
admirable values. If you can't see or understand that - you are
the one with a problem. Perhaps you need to examine your own
values - which say more about you then they do about Prof Ehrman.

Paul1405,

<<The resurrection and ascension of Jesus, is a matter of Christian faith as there is no evidence for those events, only later Gospel accounts, mostly attributed to St Paul and his followers.>>

Here you have given us your presuppositions again. You have not provided any careful investigation into the events. Assertions do not provide evidence. I'm waiting to see your careful historical method in action.

True: (as they say),
There is one step below the depths of a politician, a child molester!

And secondly; if Christine Keneally is at such a despicable level of colloquial recognition, then she would be in good company with child molesters among the priests.

The game is up maybe? Another Hillary Clinton?

Daffy Duck.

The Guru Dada you venerate, was also once among the same despicable class.

Dan.