mhaze

Following is a situational reality all within a stones throw from my back yard. On one side of the fence is a general surgeon from Brisbane, and his family, devout practicing Catholics.
On the other side of the fence is a cardiac specialist from Melbourne, a devout Protestant.
Over the back fence a retired builder; devout Catholic.

All of these people exhibit a brain.
Q: do any of this microcosm of Christian believers ask for proof of the resurrection as a motivation for their religious stand. A: obviously not.

I agree wholeheartedly with you, that God and his message would be better served by OzSpen, if he ignored such questioning, which has the less than hidden intention of ridiculing his faith as it’s base.

Dan

"May the rock around your neck (Paul) bring you God's justice." That sounds painful, conform or its fire and brimstone for you, that has generally been the attitude from the Christian hierarchy for centuries. Fortunately the old guard in many churches is being replaced by a more liberal, tolerant new guard, and questioning is acceptable.

Buddha said; "Man should seek Enlightenment", he didn't say if you don't you'll burn in Hell, so that puts him one up on lots of others in my book.

I question all the time, its healthy, what do you thinking I do at Christian fellowship on a Wednesday night, some chaps don't know what to make of me, is he a Christian, or some kind of renegade heathen.
At my first nights attendance, I was welcomed, then shorty after asked what I thought of St Paul, tonights discussion. I could have answered; "A wonderful chap who did the work of Jesus", but I chose to say "St Paul, also known as Saul of Tarsus, the true founder of Christianity.....", gave my reasons for saying that, of course it raised a few conservative eyebrows to lift, but others joined in the conversation and it was a good discussion.

DD,

OzSpen is a big boy, and can speak for himself.

"OzSpen, if he ignored such questioning, which has the less than hidden intention of ridiculing his faith as it’s base." No, there is no ridculiculing of faith by me, OzSpen has every right to his faith, and I respect that, I just have a different opinion.

Dear OzSpen,

Did you really say this of another poster?

"May the rock around your neck bring you God's justice."

Hardly a Christian sentiment there young fella.

And what on earth is this recurring theme of yours with rocks? And why the reluctance to talk about them?

Perhaps you might need to ease up a little because they seem to be getting you in all sorts of trouble.

Hartshorne sends his regards of course.

Dear mhaze,

Overdoing the 30 minute experts jibe a touch aren't we?

Oh well.

There is very little support from the majority of biblical scholarship that even the earliest Gospel is an eyewitness account. Those who try and push the idea generally have quite deeply vested interests.

Perhaps the Q document was but we will never know because it seems likely to be lost to the world.

Consider the following :-
The Christian religion portrays God as a loving father looking after his flock, " He will not suffer thy foot to be moved", etc. Here was Jesus on the cross suffering the most extreme torture. "God, why has thou forsaken me" was his cry. Would a loving Father such as believed upon by the Christians, be so indifferent to the suffering of His son. I suspect not. The only conclusion that can therefore be drawn is that in fact there is no God. He is just an imaginary being, thought up by the Jewish leaders to help them to maintain control over them, in a similar fashion to what happens to today's faithful, particularly in the Catholic and evangelical religions.

David

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<<The only conclusion that can therefore be drawn is that in fact there is no God. He is just an imaginary being, thought up by the Jewish leaders to help them to maintain control over them, in a similar fashion to what happens to today's faithful, particularly in the Catholic and evangelical religions.>>

You have provided us with your limited understanding. The facts are that He is a loving, caring God whose attributes include judging the world at the end of time.

"There is very little support from the majority of biblical scholarship that even the earliest Gospel is an eyewitness account"

An assertion SR will back up any minute now.