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Both our political class and Indigenous communities have failed troubled Aboriginal young people in Northern Australia : Comments

By Brendan O'Reilly, published 4/4/2022

The false claim that up to 100,000 were stolen has had the unfortunate effect of making today's authorities very reluctant to take measures in cases of neglected Indigenous children.

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Found myself involved in a riot between two warring groups in a NSW Aboriginal community two weeks ago: Such a frequent event in my life it’s almost boring.

A three month old baby was brought out of the house in the arms of the perpetrator as a self defensive tactic, to be flung into the air and fortunately caught before any serious damage to it.

The attacking force bolstered by relatives from a town north an hour or so away, divided itself into two parts on its frontal attack on the home of the perpetrators. One group demolished the front of the cottage with lengths of timber, the other group began splashing petrol over vehicles and parts of the house with the intention of burning it down, with people still inside, (including the infant and other children).

No police arrived during the riot or next day. The incident was officially ignored.
I don’t make this up!

I raised this incident to an acquaintance of mine who is a retired town planner. His response is unprintable as to why the powers in control moved an Aboriginal mission on the edge of town, into the centre of a white community as a policy of integration.

It’s impossible for white communities to live in peace with a central part of town turned into a riot zone and a hub of criminal activity without responding in kind.

Dan
Posted by diver dan, Monday, 4 April 2022 8:45:44 AM
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It is a waste of time discussing this problem.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 4 April 2022 9:06:54 AM
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I believe we just cannot allow extreme antisocial behaviour, domestic violence and the sexual abuse of minors to continue unabated in aboriginal communities that we would not allow anywhere else!

But treat it the same as we would almost anywhere else! Nor should we allow the past or history to influence outcomes today!

By all means leave to aboriginals to fix it. But allow sunlight and transparency in to ensure equal justice and reparation to prevail, always providing the punishment fits the crime.

And Jail should be last solution given exile ought to be the best remedy for incorrigible repeat offenders!

Albeit, in the case presented, no obvious solution presents itself, save euthanasia. Sometimes one needs to be cruel to be kind?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Monday, 4 April 2022 10:10:09 AM
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Federal & State bureaucracy has failed the Indigenous & the non-indigenous on a clockwork like basis !
I doubt that this will ever change without modifying the mentality of both sides of these particularly industries involved !
Take note of ttbn's post !
Posted by individual, Monday, 4 April 2022 10:14:55 AM
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In some communities they found that sport and being allowed to play in the team was all they needed to modify antisocial behaviour. Get kids into classrooms. And a swimming pool and being allowed access during heatwaves, another.

Rugby and boxing being among the most popular sports the latter enabling young men to use sport to vent unrequited spleen?

And allow sport to assist integration, we are but one community and need to live side by side in peaceful harmony. As for riots? A fire hose is often all that's needed to cool down the hotheads.

And video footage of incidents like throwing infants up in the air going viral might modify this sort of, completely lost it, behaviour?

There's a lot to be said for old time remedies like a spear in the leg then sent packing as a exile from the community, to modify errant behaviour.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Monday, 4 April 2022 11:07:13 AM
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I know that many will react in horror at this remark;
But surely it comes down to survival of the fittest!
If you cannot exist with others then one side or the other will be eliminated !
Posted by Bazz, Monday, 4 April 2022 12:06:09 PM
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Yes.
In primaeval times, it could well have been a useful 'side effect', which 'thinned the ranks' to ensure that only the strong survived.
But in modern times, these side effects are seen as far too destructive, and are condemned?
Instead, we try, actively, to create an exponentially increasing happy population?

When, inevitably, we run out of room and resources, calamity will strike?
By some mechanism devised by nature, the ranks will be thinned in dramatic fashion.
Even with this as a future certainty, few of us, now, would readily countenance having a small child thrown in to the air in anger?
So we opt instead for the 'exponentially increasing' model.

Our forbearance will be the death of us: eventually?
Or are we willing to change our ideas, and accept that conflict can have many beneficial consequences?
But I doubt we will ignore the suffering of others.
Instinct says otherwise.
Posted by Ipso Fatso, Monday, 4 April 2022 3:06:16 PM
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Instinct says otherwise.
Ipso fatso,
So do money & ego !
Posted by individual, Monday, 4 April 2022 3:41:08 PM
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There is a clear link between foetal alcohol syndrome and low intelligence and impulse/anger problems both of which are strong indicators of antisocial behaviour and criminality.
Posted by shadowminister, Tuesday, 5 April 2022 2:11:59 PM
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Dear Diver Dan,

It is unfortunately getting a little boring down here in southern Victoria too.

Big riot outside a shopping centre recently among two rival gangs using clubs and knives. Quite a few injured. The big one the year before resulted in one lad dying. Minor skirmishes on a weekly basis.

The demographic is not noted for aboriginal members at all but rather one of the lowest socio-economic rakings in the state. I suspect that is the issue where you are too. The only fortunate aspect here is we have the police numbers to deal with it before it impacts the general public. As a state we have 20% more police per 100,000 people than NSW.

To have them not attend where you are is just disgraceful. I would hate to thing how much the issues here would escalate without police responding in a timely manner.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Tuesday, 5 April 2022 2:55:55 PM
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SR.

There is no one answer to lawless behaviour unless the lawless discover a reason to change.
That won’t happen, for the same reason Ukraine will not win a war against the Russians.
Surrender is eventually the only solution to violence.

Open borders are not in any way an assistance to peace: More so are they a surety of societal decay. (Your example of imported ethnic gang violence).

Similar to Aboriginal lawlessness and violence. Opening up borders for missions to be integrated into white communities, is an obvious failure with a base line of stupid.

People in our communities pay a dear price for integration mandates thrust onto them by feel-good Government policy that overrides the rights of the individual to live in peace.

Dan
Posted by diver dan, Tuesday, 5 April 2022 7:53:38 PM
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