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Guterres changes course on UN Israel-PLO two-state solution : Comments

By David Singer, published 3/3/2022

On 12 February Guterres spoke positively of a new grassroots Plan B - 'The Holy Land Confederation' - creating an Israeli-Palestinian confederation - after meeting with its authors in New York.

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Sorry, but this change in UN sentiment changes nothing! Just the words from a mouth.

The occupiers need to leave the occupied land and hand it back to those who had legitimate claims and legal tenure before occupation!

Or settle for a two state solution based on 1967 borders! And understand this is a most generous concession from their genetic cousins, the Palistinians, who also can claim a direct decendancy from Abraham.

Suggest you buy a parrot if all you can do is endlessly parrot what you have already said. And just hand it over to the bird brain who might even prove to be a little bit more intelligent?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Thursday, 3 March 2022 11:53:27 AM
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Look how humble the author is:

That was his own plan all along which he preached to us over these pages since 2008, long before Trump even dreamed of becoming president, yet this author, with total humility, attributes it to this greater noble soul, Donald John Trump!

This sinister plan, if enacted, would destroy both Israel and Jordan, something the author has been eagerly awaiting all those years, so that this whole vast land would fall like a ripe fruit in the hands of his Jewish sect.

Would be interesting to learn what plan the author has in mind for destroying Australia as well!
How about Russia and China amicably negotiating how to divide this continent between them?

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Dear Alan,

«this is a most generous concession from their genetic cousins, the Palistinians, who also can claim a direct decendancy from Abraham.»

There is no such thing as "Palestinians".
That is a very insulting name invented by the criminal Romans to humiliate the defeated Israelis following their failed rebellion. Could I ask you to please not use it in future?

Anyway, these natives are not only genetic cousins, but brothers and sisters of the Israelis, not only descending from Abraham but also (most of them) from his grandson Jacob, whose name was later changed (following his brave struggle with an angel) to Israel!

«Or settle for a two state solution based on 1967 borders!»

Why "based on"? The 1967 border must be adhered to exactly where it is. Any modifications could only harm Israel.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Thursday, 3 March 2022 1:32:09 PM
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This is what the occupation engages in.

http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnewsvideo/comments/t3hs67/israeli_police_beats_a_12_year_old_girl_in_east/
Posted by SteeleRedux, Thursday, 3 March 2022 1:58:39 PM
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#Alan B

Can fully understand why you are so incredibly upset when you state:
"Sorry, but this change in UN sentiment changes nothing! Just the words from a mouth.
The occupiers need to leave the occupied land and hand it back to those who had legitimate claims and legal tenure before occupation!
Or settle for a two state solution based on 1967 borders!"

Pathetic comment.

Especially so since you had commented just seven days earlier:
"Sorry, David. But you've played this C.R.A.P., before! And it's no more persausive (sic) now than then. The UN plan based on the 67 borders and a two state solution is the only plan with a sparrow's fart, chance of success"

How embarrassing to be caught with your pants down so soon after your dismissive response to my earlier article.

Yes - there are indeed alternative solutions to the UN two-state solution. It is encouraging that UN Secretary-General Guterres is prepared to endorse the Holy Land Confederation to be considered as an alternative. He should also endorse the Trump Plan to redraw the Israel-Jordan border as another possible solution.

BTW - there are no "67 borders" - which you have misleadingly stated two weeks in a row. They were "49 Armistice Lines" - agreed between Transjordan and Israel following Transjordan's illegal invasion of Palestine in 1948. Big difference. I think I would have a sparrow's fart chance of getting you to acknowledge yet another error in your comment.

And another correction: Those "who had legitimate claims before occupation" never claimed sovereignty when the land was occupied by Jordan. They accepted unification with Transjordan to form a new territorial entity called "Jordan"

Pity you have been so brainwashed by Arab propaganda that you can only faithfully parrot their false and misleading propaganda.

If I accepted your advice to "go to the seashore with a bucket and spade. Where you could dig a hole in the sand, then try to empty the ocean into that hole": I am sure I would find your head buried there.
Posted by david singer, Tuesday, 8 March 2022 1:24:27 PM
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