Again Foxy, you utterly utterly misunderstand. Trump's comments about Putin's genius move was related exactly and solely about Putin declaring the Donbass regions as independent states requiring a peace-keeping force. The comments were made prior to the later invasion.

That you can't see or even begin to understand this is both sad and entirely expected.

Putin's moves are entirely based on the fact that Biden, the US and the west in general are presently weak and unable to mount any form of resistance. This is a complete reversal to the situation when Trump was in power. Just throwing a tantrum and whining that you don't want that to be true, doesn't change the facts - at least not in the adult world which you should try to join at some point.

Just in terms of Biden being out-witted by Putin, here is Biden's erudite and clear-headed response when asked about it....

http://rumble.com/vvlhql-biden-picks-his-teeth-and-stares-blankly-while-reporters-ask-questions.html

Posted by Chris Lewis- Germany most important? I don't get it.

Answer- Why don't you get it Chris Lewis?? Do you see things differently?

mhaze

Whether Trump or Biden was president is totally irrelevant to Putin's resort to military action in Ukraine.

Every US president during the time Putin has been in power has used NATO to militarily threaten and contain Russia. Obama and Biden have been the worst, but Trump's presidency didn't result in any easing whatever of NATO's stranglehold on Russia.

Obama and Biden were instrumental in fomenting the 2014 coup in Ukraine which deposed the elected pro-Russian leader and installed a US-puppet government. The US intention was to have Ukraine join NATO and thus complete its military encirclement of Russia.

Since the coup, Ukraine's economy has nose-dived and the country is now riddled with neo-Nazis who have been threatening and killing the citizens of the Eastern provinces of Donetsk and Luhansk. They have ignored the Minsk agreement signed by Russia, Ukraine, Germany and France, which very sensibly would have allowed these provinces to remain in Ukraine whilst maintaining economic and language ties to Russia.

When the USSR was being dismantled, the West promised Russia that NATO would not move east, a promise which successive US presidents have broken again and again. Putin has consistently tried to engage in diplomacy with western leaders in order to halt this military aggression, but apart from Macron and Merkel, has been ignored. His recent and very reasonable treaty suggestions which, if enacted would have restored peace to Europe, were flatly and arrogantly rejected by the US. There was absolutely no attempt offered to negotiate and compromise in any way.

The Russians in eastern Ukraine have long begged Putin to save them from the neo-Nazi assault they've endured since 2014 and which has only been exacerbated in recent weeks as the US has recklessly poured weapons into Ukraine. Putin's long slow military build-up was a warning to the US and its Ukraine puppet government. It was a warning they ignored.

No-one wants this war, least of all Russia. But enough is enough. Why should Russia stand by and have its sovereignty, its borders and the lives of its people threatened by US imperialist aggression?

So what do we call it when the US does this?
Didn't they go into IRAQ for WMDs?
Did we forget that one?

Probably just wanted to steal all his gold and oil.
And oh yeh "We're going to get rid of that evil dictator and bring democracy!"

At least Putin had valid reasons
- And the US started it when they overthrew Yanukovych.

I still support Russia.
The Donetsk and Luhansk regions had every right under UN law and every reason after the US (Obama, Biden and Soros, Clinton, Nuland) armed Right Sector Neo Nazis and Svoboda to conduct an overthrow of the democratically elected leader and take over the country.

Russia and China have every reason to consider the Wests intentions hostile when it openly states it wants to get rid of autocratic countries and conducts coloured revolutions.

The entire news is just a convenient pack of lies.

Bronwyn,

“Whether Trump or Biden was president is totally irrelevant to Putin's resort to military action in Ukraine.”

So, in your estimation its just coincidence that Putin sought to address what he considers the Ukraine problem in the last years of the Obama regime and the first year of the Biden regime, but was silent while Trump was in charge? Quite the coincidence. I think its more accurate to understand that Putin knows who can be pushed around and who can’t.
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“….used NATO to militarily threaten and contain Russia.”

Would it be churlish to point out that you only need to contain countries that want to expand?
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“The US intention was to have Ukraine join NATO”.
So why didn’t they do it?
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“now riddled with neo-Nazis “
Now you’re just unthinkingly regurgitating Russia propaganda/misinformation. There is no evidence that the Ukrainian leadership are Nazis or Nazi sympathisers. Putin is just using the language of Antifa to justify his war.
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“the West promised Russia that NATO would not move east”
False. They made some unwritten assurances to the USSR. Russia wasn’t a country then. It was before states like Poland were free to make their own choices, being, as they were, conquered peoples. Is it your view that countries like Poland who suffered 50 years of Russian oppression, don’t have the right to seek outside protection from a repeated conquest?

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“Why should Russia stand by and have its sovereignty, its borders and the lives of its people threatened by US imperialist aggression?”

Russian borders aren’t threatened. Nor is its sovereignty. NATO has repeatedly and constantly said Ukraine can’t join NATO. If there was any move to put NATO troops in Kiev, then you might have a point. But absent that, we see that you are just an unthinking apologist for Kremlin expansionism.