Why do you watch such crap?

Probably because the rest of his life is even worse crap.
David

Yes why do you watch such crapp? But then again watching of listening to the news is exactly the same thing - Skyhooks- horror movie the six-thirty "news".

But Christian-ism is a death denying religion. All Westerners including all Christians systematically eliminate death and suffering from their view. Western philosophy and "theology" is the always-wanting-to-forestall-the-day philosophy that does not embrace death and does not (really) take it into account. Real Spiritual and religious life is not based on the rejection of death. It is based on taking death fully into account, on making the fact of death the framework and the fundamental basis of your understanding of life and its purpose.

A philosophy and "religion" based on the rejection of death becomes materialism, utopianism, "worldliness". Protestant religiosity is of course very much about such utopian worldliness (either in this world or projected into the next world)
The gross body-based, materialistic disposition made into a culture, a society, politics. Philosophy and religion based on the acceptance of death - and, thus, on the understanding of this life, associated (as it is) with death, with ending, with suffering, with limitation - is an entirely different kind of philosophy and religion. It is the basis for profound Spiritual practice, for the profound surrender and transcending of separate "self".

Some of the usual references:
http://global.adidam.org/books/easy-death
http://www.easydeathbook.com/purpose.asp The Purpose of Death

Right Human Life Must Transcend the Materialist "Culture" of death
http://www.aboutadidam.org/newsletters/newsletter-february2004.pdf

http://www.aboutadidam.org/dying_death_and_beyond/index.htm

Sells torments the tormentors.

Good.

Dan.

This is not crap. It has a finger on the pulse of our society and we would be foolish to ignore it.

Dear Sells,

It is not worthwhile watching because it has a finger on the pulse of our society. Our society is omnipresent around us. We can learn about other things - the arts, the humanities, the sciences, other societies. We can speculate about changes in our society. Still seems like crap to me.

The laconic message in this dark song is the simplicity of the Christian message.
It’s hard to go past it for its simplicity in artistic form.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdwLAD7VEJ0

Dan.

I suggest you get on U tube and the spirituality channel to hear the first-hand account of a Canadian capitalist/merchant who was clinically dead for 11 minutes. And bourne out by hospitable records. He recalls seeing heaven and hell. And a literal conversation with Jesus.

Now I'm hardly a religious man. but as someone who was rushed to hospital and DOA. And revived with the paddles and an injection of adrenalin, his account rings true for me, who saw what he described to some extent. And as a returning eyewitness, can recall in lucid detail.

So, Peter, there is life after death, a soul and heaven and hell!

Moreover being gay is not a sin, given those who are gay (Jesus?) are born with their sexual bias part of their God-given nature.

Simply put, nobody chooses their sexual bias, or to be gay! And given what they have to tolerate, nobody, but nobody, WOULD CHOOSE to be gay or homosexual.

Those that persecute them do so through barbaric, stone-age choice and the only place in this chapter of life that includes choice, sin and the road to hell!

I mean, I might participate in homosexual sex, but only with a gun held to my head! And I dare say that would include every naturally heterosexual person on the planet!

Stop fretting, Peter, what happens in the privacy of your bedroom between consenting adults? Is nobody's business but yours and his! And is not a sin any more than being born left-handed! It's a natural aberration that occurs throughout nature!

One cannot claim the chicken scratchings in a two-thousand-year-old book are all true or divinely inspired! But particularly those chapters that include the inculcated, semi-primitive beliefs and cultural/social mores of illiterate, almost stone age, sheepherders!

Where a woman need only be accused of unproven adultery to be murdered by stone-throwing "cultural warriors"! And the only sinners in such stories!
Alan B.

Funny how people who don't believe in Christianity feel the need to rubbish it all the time.

Al B

Inside a church structure you appear to hold contempt for, are mixing of the righteous with the self righteous.
Those two thousand year old scribblings you deride, have clearly identified the difference between the two for your convenience.

Where you find the Angels is in the real world outside.

Your contempt for Christianity gives more away about yourself than I’m sure you realise.

Dive a bit deeper into it.

Dan.

ttbn When one reads of the misdeeds of the ecclesiastical class, often in the name of God, over the centuries is it any wonder.
David

Alan. The heart may have stopped beating and the lungs have stopped breathing, but it takes a while for the brain to stop functioning and no doubt it retains the ability to still dream, just as we dream when we are asleep. I often dream, and it is amazing how realistic those dreams generally are, but in truth, when I wake up, I realize that's all they were, dreams.
David

"ttbn When one reads of the misdeeds of the ecclesiastical class, often in the name of God, over the centuries is it any wonder.
David".

What are the "misdeeds"? Who do you blame? God or the alleged miscreants? Anyone can say or do anything at all in the name of God. What they say or do is not necessarily anything to do with God.