Some questions for Alan B
1. Why do these vaccines not stop you getting the virus?
2. Why do these vaccines not stop you passing on the virus?
3. Has anyone but the very old or the people with other health
problems died of the Covid?
4. Why dosen't this virus just kill everybody because loads of people
cannot even catch it?
5. What about that magic Bismuth from the Thorium reactors, has that
been tried?

Apparently a hospital trial of a new treatment for Covid19 has commenced in New Zealand using a Colostrum product proven in the lab to destroy the virus.

Don't know any more than that, but perhaps there are some new & better approaches than experimental vaccines.

We are now in a "third wave" of lockdowns, with half the population in home detention. Let's face it: nothing is working, as per usual when governments take over from individual self-responsibility.

J.B. THe vaccinnes we have on the table currently do just one thing. make this pathogen less deadly for the vaccinated. To the point that some may have little more than a sniffle for a week or two.

Nobody is claiming they don't stop you fo either getting the virus or spreading it! Even so, there are therapeutics that have killed 99.99% of the viral load in hamsters. Or and out of patent nasal spray that if used thrice daily, gives reasonable protection for health workers.

That said, the best protection for the entire nation, is not to allow the egress onshore! And only achievable if island quarantine is the first line of defence against a killer virus.

Island quarantine would mean our internal borders could have remained open and life continue as almost normal. And given international travel off the table, our accommodation facilities could have been saved for the travelling holidaymakers. And made the usual tourist destinations full to overflowing with Aussies and maybe, Kiwis.

In fact, as has been shown, doing better, now that international travel is off the table. At least, when we weren't shut down as a consequence of highly incompetent, blind, blinkered, recalcitrant quarantine administration! More concerned with looking after cronies than the nation?

Hasbeen, interesting observation!
Alan B.

J.B. Yes the virus has killed young people too. And made others very sick. There's a Kamakase syndrome, in young folk caused by the pathogen, where the immune system goes into autoimmune overdrive and starts attacking the important internal organs. And never ends well! Costs a sheep station or two to treat. But that only delays the inevitable for the uncomprehending dribbling patient!

As to minimising the outcome? Mass graves are never ever a sign of relative insignificance or risk! And could be our future if we don't get off our butts and get vaccinated ASAP!

And that could have been the outcome months ago, but for rank incompetence at the helm. Albeit, the helm was first in line for the jab! And about when complacency replaced the frantic urgency that preceded it.
Alan B

J.B. Could the virus be treated with bismuth 213? Don't know mate, we don't have any and last time I looked the was just 3 grams left on the planet.

But now that the Chinese are installing MSR thorium in some ships and subs. May soon have a new source of supply?

Anything that can be attached to a specific antibody can be used like a snipers bullet to kill whatever is the target? Nothing is currently ruled in or out. Save, some death sentence cancers were ruled in where bismuth 213 has given many their lives back.

And we've known this for over half a century! As around two hundred million lives were lost, that might have been saved?

Cancer attacks the old and the young without discrimination and over a lifetime, will in one way or another, affect one in every three of us!
Alan B.