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The forgotten issues of climate change : Comments

By Murray Hunter, published 10/8/2021

What environmentalism must be concerned about.

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Intergovernmental Committee on Climate Change, ‘the world’s leading climate scientists’ have warned that the prospect of limiting global warming to 1.5 degrees Celsius will be out of reach within 12 years at current rates of greenhouse gas emissions. Yet last week it was reported by leading climate scientists are warning that climate models are overestimating temperature changes by failing to take sufficient account of natural cyclical variations in the earth’s temperatures.

We cannot believe any of the nonsense. Nature doesn't agree, either.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 10 August 2021 9:01:31 AM
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The extinction of humankind would be a boon to the other species on earth. Environmental problems would disappear with the end of that species. Life on earth would go on.
Posted by david f, Tuesday, 10 August 2021 10:04:28 AM
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So true david f, soooo true.......
Posted by ateday, Tuesday, 10 August 2021 10:16:56 AM
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david f,

That is the most ridiculous thing you have ever come up with, mate. Are you volunteering to be the first to set an example and leave the world to animals. You could hold hands with ateday as you show us how it's done, although I don't think your idea would be taken up by many people .
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 10 August 2021 12:22:22 PM
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I note the Author hasn't excluded nuclear power as an option a few refuse to even consider, because they're wedded to the fossil fuel industry?

Or more succinctly, a few tin-eared, recalcitrant, OBTUSE politicians have vested interests in coal gas or oil?

Some advocate the direct removal from the atmosphere of CO2/ While technically possible via fractional distillation. A far better method would be to vacuum it out of seawater! Via large vacuum towers. And where the seawater can be used to extract volumetric hydrogen, which is then combined with the already extracted CO2 to create endlessly sustainable, alternative hydrocarbons, fertilizers and plastics! Albeit some of the created or reclaimed CO2 and hydrogen can be used and sold as dry ice or liquified Hydrogen gas.

We need to be planting trees as plantations of high-value cabinet timbers. This stacks up as a long term business case, if you're considering retirement or inheritance outcomes!

water needs to be made from seawater and too easy if it is made via deionisation dialysis desalination which produces around 95% potable water at four times the volume of reverse osmosis.

And cheap enough to make it available for broad-scale irrigation desertification or inexhaustible and guaranteed town supply!

All extremely practical if nuclear power, i.e, MSR thorium is the principle dispatchable, 24/7 reliable power supply. With beneficial medical alpha and beta particles created from the decay products! And what waste is created, eminently suitable as long-life space batteries that burn up with reentry!

Interestingly, when we extract volumetric CO2 from seawater, the seawater replaces most of it by extracting it from the atmosphere, due to the symbiotic attraction of the oceans to the CO2 content in the atmosphere?

Moreover, if some of this extract is used in high-value, labour intensive, under glass agriculture after flowering and pollination. then most parasitical bugs would asphyxiate, well before they can infest the production. Not only that, but CO2 in those circumstances as a purging gas assists production as if it were a fertilizer!

Naturally, workers would have to wear breathing apparatus and from piped outside air.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Tuesday, 10 August 2021 12:24:45 PM
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ttbn. You talk endless rubbish and are patently clueless? 3% of so-called climate scientists, does not equate to a consensus/universal agreement by the remaining 97%!

Others stupidly believe some species would survive a mass extinction event?

If humans go, they will be among the very last, as they can and will construct artificial living conditions that allow them and their companion animals to survive a worldwide cotasrophe!

As others (the birds and the bees etc) collapse in the heat and carbon laden atmosphere. Heatstroke taking out the non-sweating cohort! AS the surface water dries up!

Simply put, sitting still or fiddling as Rome burns is not an option, nor is the current status quo! Whereas, remedial action of the scale needed will bring with it massive economic benefit! With a tiny handful of losers!

Albeit, the latter includes some of the currently richest most powerful people on the planet!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Tuesday, 10 August 2021 12:48:10 PM
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