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For the sake of humanity don't pressure the Chinese too much over origins of COVID-19 : Comments

By Rodney Crisp, published 27/7/2021

Important moral and political issues must first be addressed before a meaningful technical investigation can be carried out with the full and unequivocal cooperation of the host country.

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There's really only two viable hypothesis at this time:

1. China, despite years of the WHO telling them to cut it out, allowed the virus to develop by bringing multiple different animal species together in wet markets.

2. China, through poor standards, allowed the virus to escape from a laboratory (admittedly, almost every "highly secure" virus laboratory in the world has "lost" samples at some point).

In both cases, China is at fault. In the second case, perhaps slightly less because the virologist community should know better and deliberately chose to do this kind of research in a country that has poor standards.
Posted by SilverInCanberra, Tuesday, 27 July 2021 9:49:10 AM
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The brigade of the timid, may point their vulnerable back side to the the sun for the pleasure of China, I won’t be one.
Those with the most to lose can suck along, and there is a big price to pay by them for going along the lazy path to their riches, by fraternising with the communist enemy.

That Communist enemy co-incidentally, is the same enemy lovingly embraced by the Marxists ruling elite, the wealthy and arrogant class of social misfits presenting themselves as progressive.
Actually, regressive fits more perfectly their casting mould.

I interpret this article as a less than subtle pro-Chinese sop piece.
And the short line which invites in the Palestinians as observers, is beyond laughable.
I still have a vivid memory of the PLO terrorists and Yasser Arafat.
How quickly the wealthy forget their past!

Dan.
Posted by diver dan, Tuesday, 27 July 2021 9:55:55 AM
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Don't pressure China too much? Use diplomacy? Just kowtow to the biggest thugs and bullies on earth. The CCP's apologies for diplomats threaten and insult us in our own country. The virus came from China, and there is no evidence that it doesn't constitute germ warfare, to compliment the grey war against us - spying and stealing commercial and military material. What better way to have a country locked down and in a constant state of panic as Australia is than with a deadly virus?

Humanity and Xi Jinping's Chinese Communist Party should not be mentioned in the same breath.

We need to take up the old mantra, 'Better Dead Than Red'. There is no sort of life to be had under Chinese Communism.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 27 July 2021 10:50:57 AM
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Disagree! For the sake of humanity, we do need to know the source of this pathogen. And given the CCC's reaction thus far and the unexplained disappearance of some Wuhan scientists from the lab that was experimenting on coronavirus? We simply cannot rule out an engineered viral weapon?

China needs to decide if she wants to remain a trading nation within the circle of law-abiding trading nations that are governed by established rules! Or whether she wants to step outside as a rogue nation that is governed by her own, made up as we go along, rules or none?

I do believe though, we need to do this very politely with respectful but firm diplomacy behind closed doors. Rather than some of the megaphone diplomacy, we've seen to date!

And those meetings need to establish, that we can be pushed just so far and no farther!

For our part, we need to stop exporting raw materials and instead get cracking on converting them to manufactured/value-added exports! And with urgent alacrity! As if there was not a moment to lose! Cause, truth be known, there isn't! TBC.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Tuesday, 27 July 2021 10:57:30 AM
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China will listen to those she respects And those include nuclear powered nuclear-armed nations with significant manufacturing bases!

But not kowtowing near banana republics that go cap in hand begging for a tummy rub!

Our response to date is to roar from the rooftops and then look as puzzled as all get-up, why we're being hit with trade sanctions and tariff barriers!?

If we would b the mouse that roared? We need to be the nuclear-armed and nuclear-powered mouse that squeaked! And started to rationalise our manufacturing ability with the raw materials we currently export!

I hear with some disgust, some cretins argue that the things we made here were second class and had to be subsidised? Those subsidies were only necessary to counter energy costs, transport costs and water costs!

And because we didn't have the nouse to manufacture completed products from single-site utilising a single company! And simply refusing to embrace a, cheaper than coal, clean green carbon-free, energy source! That energy source is thorium, the most energy-dense material on the planet!

Just 8 grams of the stuff, costing around $100.00 to mine and refine, contains enough available energy to power your house and car for 100 years, without refuelling! That's just one oxford scholar P.A.

All that prevents any of the above is political timidity and or powerful vested interests with other plans? And pollies in the pocket/on the payroll? And if the cap fits!?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Tuesday, 27 July 2021 11:37:37 AM
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Given a situation where the required action is:
If X, do A.
If Y, do A.

There is no need to check X or Y, because the outcome is the same.

China is our deadly enemy, the enemy of freedom, the enemy of religion, so we must shut off all contacts with it and brace ourselves as best we can for its conventional, cyber, nuclear, biological and chemical attacks. We may be fortunate to make it through and survive or we might not and die, but questioning the exact origin of what happened to be the first shot in this war, is simply futile.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 27 July 2021 1:15:14 PM
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