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Covid exit strategy? : Comments
By Rhys Jones, published 1/7/2021This leaves us in a position of having to accept rolling lockdowns, travel restrictions within the country and even within individual states, and closed international borders.
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Posted by mhaze, Monday, 5 July 2021 9:50:58 AM
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Dear mhaze,
How on earth did it disprove my original assertion? That the only 6 vaccinated people at the party remain infection free? It didn't. The assertion that this is reasonable grounds to be happy that I chose the jab is also not disproved but your "oops" moment. The inference that those at the party had more robust immune systems enhanced by the vaccine (than those patients at an old folks home) and thus able to ward off the infection is also sound. Blood hell mate, where has your basic common sense gone to? Posted by SteeleRedux, Monday, 5 July 2021 10:20:00 AM
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Oh dear, SR, why is this so difficult for you.
You thought that the fact that 6 vaccinated people didn't get the virus when exposed to it justified your decision to get the jab. But 3 (now 5) vaccinated people getting the virus when exposed to it shows your justification to be invalid. It doesn't mean getting the jab is wrong, just that the rationale you used to justify that decision is invalidated by subsequent events Posted by mhaze, Monday, 5 July 2021 12:07:24 PM
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Dear mhaze,
Well that blathering hardly moved the debate along one iota did it. Not that I expected any different. I got the jab because the reasons including trying to do my bit to lower the chances of others in the community contracting Covid justified it. What happened at the party certainly helped to validate that decision. So an unvaccinated staff member brings the virus into the facility where the residents have mainly been vaccinated with a product which reduced infections by 60% and severity by 80%, and all seems to be going pretty much to script. Yet you in your idiocy have determined it was a failure on all counts. Damn. If I was so tainted by right wing ideology as you that this was the only approach open to me I would be checking myself in somewhere. It really is just bananas. This is how problematic Covid is in aged care facilities. “Aged care residents form a distinct vulnerable population with single-facility attack rates of 45% [95% CI 32–58%] and case fatality rates of 23% [95% CI 18–28%]. Of the cases, 31% [95% CI 28–34%] were asymptomatic. The rate of hospitalization amongst residents was 37% [95% CI 35–39%]. Data from 21 outbreaks identified a resident as the index case in 58% of outbreaks and a staff member in 42%. “ http://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(21)00051-1/fulltext Your flippancy on this issue is hardly edifying is it. Posted by SteeleRedux, Monday, 5 July 2021 12:41:02 PM
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So we're agreed that vaccinated people can get the virus? Contra what you originally asserted. Glad you got there.
Posted by mhaze, Monday, 5 July 2021 1:46:34 PM
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Dear mhaze,
Oh now you are getting as bad as shadowminister, claiming things that were not asserted at all because you feel a bit miffed you have been done over yet again. Really childish mate. Posted by SteeleRedux, Monday, 5 July 2021 4:58:56 PM
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It's becoming increasingly difficult to tell whether you miss the logic of an issue because its too hard for you to contemplate or because you just can't bring yourself to admit that the facts are different to what you want them to be.
You preened yourself that getting the jab was a smart move based on 6 vaccinated people who were exposed to the virus not getting infected.
I showed you a situation where 3 vaccinated people exposed to WuFlu did get infected, thus disproving your original assertions.
I know its standard operation procedure in SR-land to disseminate when shown to be wrong, but you used to be so much better at it. Now its just so transparent.