Sorry, but I find little to commend this ideological rant from another authoritarian Conservative of the religious right/hard right.

The pragmatists in the party have moved the Senator and her minority/born to rule views to the bottom of the ticket to improve their chances!

It's as simple as that and the Senator and her Victorian puritanical outdated views/belief system, has been the Author of her own political downfall.

Simply put, if abortion were once again made illegal it wouldn't stop abortion, just drive it underground again and give the backyard butchers a chance to increase the terrible death toll from this activity! The only laws we can make are those that are enforceable!

Gone are the days when the Neo-Nazis, KKK, White Supremists, and hard-right bible bashing fruit loops/extremists are able to infiltrate a political party and then move the moderates out or further to the right!

And are now being monitored as never before after the bloodbath in a Christchurch Mosque!

Better the political death of a hard right posturing pollie with extremist or outdated (immovable dementia personified) views, be moved on/out than to see the death of a once-great liberal party, decimated at the polls!
Alan B.

When you go extremely hard left you invariably merge with the extreme of the right !

This Article should have been headed " Sour Grapes from the far Right "

Otherwise , I cannot find anything in it of interest .

As for Senator Abetz He , for some reason , gets rate last below the line by a surprising number of Voters .

I wonder why ?

According to Stoker herself, the real problem is that she isn't sinking enough piss. As Morrison's Australia is stuck in the 1950s, I can well believe it.

The "Liberal Party (has been) no longer the answer" for me since John Howard went. He wasn't perfect, but he was the last conservative in what has become a slightly less repulsive Labor party. Abbott didn't even believe in free speech (reneged on his undertaking to quash Sec 18c), and Turnbull, a straight up Lefty. Now, they have Scott Morrison, who stands for nothing except Scott Morrison.

There is no party in Australia worth voting for; we are going down gurgler, and there is no one to prevent it.

O’Sullivan’s First Law - "all organisations that are not actually right-wing will over time become left-wing”.

The Labor Party is now more left-wing than it was a decade ago. SO IS THE LIBERAL PARTY. See the latests big spending, big government socialist budget, which was inevitable, given the leftward drift of the Liberals, which has been occurring since the demise of the Howard government, but mainly unnoticed by a disinterested electorate that still believes the Marxist's use of words like 'conservative' and 'Tory' for any group or individual who is to the right of the Chinese Communist Party.

The Liberals are just as eager now to rule every aspect of our lives as Labor has always been. Policies on freedoms of speech - or lack of it - are pretty much identical.

How much longer will it be before the political grubs get together and decide that we don't really need to have a vote? Generation Z, who already don't care for democracy, will be taking over not so long from now. In the meantime, they have Scott Morrison to pave the way for them.

Paul Collits- Thanks for the article.

I also saw the article-
"https://catallaxyfiles.com/2020/07/04/paul-collits-on-the-way-we-are-losing-the-cultural-and-political-wars/"

And the quote- "I think it is a mistake to identify as “rightwing” but if people want to go with that, then so be it, just get on with all the other things that need to be done. And don’t be surprised if we keep losing."

This is why I have been calling my views "Traditionalist" rather than right or left. The "Traditionalist Side" of the "Political Octogon" (not a simple spectrum) has elements of both the right and left and but isn't as "liberal" as these ideologies. In a sense left and right aren't liberal or free either but have a degenerate and oppressive fetish with "the new"- causing cognitive overload and collapse of society.

Traditionalists believe that "the new" is in the mix but it's not the priority. Traditionalists believe that it's our god given right to choose what we will accept in our own society. More of a bottom up self rule approach- self determination.

Left Liberals want to interfere in in everyone else's business- I think we should leave people alone as long as they stay out of other peoples business. For this reason Left Liberals and perhaps all Liberals are evil dictators.

They don't believe that people have the right to think for themselves.

With the legalisation of abortion, the death toll from this activity dramatically decreased!

Reversing that law to once again make it illegal with unenforceable laws, tantamount to sanctioning murder, given the cost in human life due to hemorrhaging caused by backyard butchers! And without ever reducing the rate of abortions!?

And hemorrhaging that is quickly dealt with in legalised family planning clinics, run by accreditated Clinicians!

SSM is a debate we've had with a landslide in favour of YES! Albeit, not accepted by the bible bashing hard right, who erroneously believe, they have some God-given authority to overrule the national majority?

Based on "claimed" divinely inspired, he said, she said, words written over 2 thousand years ago by scribes who may have or may not have faithfully recorded the words they were transcribing and without any real evidence of the claimed divine inspiration!

Much of which is taken out of context or misunderstood by a largely brainwashed cohort. An unshakable conviction of a flat earth, never ever made it flat!

And just as an unexamined life is not worth living. An unexamined belief system, is not worth believing!

We may well be coming to the end days? But maybe not as interpreted by the fundamentally flawed bible bashing believers?
Alan B.

If Amanda wanted to become relevant!? She would have focused her attention with microscopic detail on hip pocket issues! And just kept her brainwashed religious belief to herself! And a policy that needs to be adopted by all believers!

Leading by ever compassionate example, is the way J.C. did it? And the only template worth a cracker!

Hip pocket issues include the current cost of foreign-owned or controlled, energy!

Our lopsided taxation policy, where few carry the rest.

And the unacceptable level of, corruption, nepotism and cronyism that so marks, business as usual, in this country?

This is where the conviction based people's warriors need to focus their entire political attention on and leave their religious beliefs inside church halls!

Inasmuch as ye do unto the least among you, you also do unto me!

Allowing a large cohort to live below the poverty line in a country as wealthy as Australia, is a cardinal sin and needs to be addressed ASAP!

And not anywhere as difficult as the shonks and shysters in politics etc, would have the mugs out there in mugsville, believe!

Issues that we can address include the legalised removal of profit demand, paper shuffling middlemen, who effectively double the cost of living/doing business.

Price gouged energy, which could be addressed by including MSR thorium, run by competing for your dollar, employee-owned co-ops!

Coupled to a completely reformed tax system that includes everyone, as a flat tax of 15% that kicks in above a very generous threshold!

And where Amanda ought to have focused her attention to gain enough support to run and win as an independent, now today!
Alan B.

If this Amanda Stoker is so popular with voters, why don't she resign from the Liberal Party and stand as an Independent, with all those conservative views of hers. No doubt she would win a quota right off the bat! ttbn could be her campaign manager, he's experenced in conservative politics.

I've met many politicians from various countries, and have met Amanda Stoker twice. I rate her very highly compared to the bulk of pollies, particularly those in more recent times who tend to be career-pollies from uni onwards rather than having a broad experience of life outside politics.

Alan B., with your comment:

'She would have focused her attention with microscopic detail on hip pocket issues! And just kept her brainwashed religious belief to herself!'

You are in esteemed company, it was historian Nancy MacLean and investigative journalist Jane Mayer, with Kochs central, who suggested that religious and other sociocultural issues are used to form voter coalitions, then allowing governments to pass unpalatable 'radical right libertarian' economic ideology; ably supported by the 'media assembly line'.

Further, and disturbing, is the autocracy that seems to come with it, it's no so much about individual 'freedom and liberty', aka Brandis on 'freedom of speech' to denigrate racially etc., but using the state to stifle dissent which is now liberally used via defamation suits by 'elites'....

Amanda Stoker is a huge improvement over the usual Closet Communist hiding within the Labor-Lite Liberal-National coalition & pretending to not be a radical, extreme, loony, left wing nut job.

But Amanda could be earning plenty of money by "suing a socialist into the stone age" instead of being in parliament.

Are you also a believer in the, "reds under the bed" theory? Stocker is free to run off and form her own party or stand as an independent. Why is she trying to hang off the coat tails of a party whose members don't want her.

Hello Paul1405:- "reds under the beds" was NEVER a theory...

It is a well documented, scientifically proven fact that 100% of all left wing think tanks, left wing lobby groups & left wing political parties on Australian soil are wholly owned subsidiaries of the CCP or Chinese Communist Party.

There is more than enough evidence to secure convictions against ALL Australian Leftists for treason, sedition or "serving foreign powers". As an old 500 player would say "it's an unlosable hand or lay down misere".

Hi ima,

How about your "scientifically proven fact" what a load of rubbish!

Lay down misere, is a "million" to one chance in '500', just like the odds of the nonsense you peddle about so called left wing parties in Australia being a tool of the CCP. In fact you'll find more evidence of conservative right wing Politian's having links to the CCP than anyone else.

Hello Paul1405:- The hint is in the brand name "international socialism" or communism or marxism or leftism or left wing religion.

Namely EXACTLY the same religious dogma in ALL leftist think tanks, leftist lobby groups & leftist political parties in ALL countries on the planet. They ALL cooperate with each other, on EVERYTHING 24/7/365, ever since leftism has existed.

Do you read any of your own religious dogma. There are books on leftism in the library you know. Try reading one.

Have SOME Liberal-National Coalition politicians & public servants ever sold us out to Communist China?

Perhaps, but that would be financial corruption.

Australian leftists have been selling us out to Communist China because their "rules of leftist religion" or unholy scripture told them to.

Or "the devil made me do it" literally.

Hi Ima,

As a far right supporter, you obviously believe there is some link between left wing political parties in Australia and the CCP, but you offer no evidence. I'm not sure which parties you consider to be affiliated with the Chinese Communist Party. There is no need for me to read books in the library, the onus is on you to provide some evidence of your claim. If I claim the Moon is made of green cheese, and you disagree, its unreasonable for me to tell you to go find evidence that my claim is true. Agree

Hi Paul1405:- i will ask you a question in plain, simple english...

How did former federal Lie-bore politician Sam Dastyari earn the nickname Shanghai Sam?

hi Ima,

Because he is a crook, a shyster, and several other adjectives I can't write here. One thing Dastyari isn't, he isn't the Labor Party, I would describe him as a political opportunist seeking gain for himself. The only ism Sam would believe in is Destyarism.

You said, I quote; "It is a well documented, scientifically proven fact that 100% of all left wing think tanks, left wing lobby groups & left wing political parties on Australian soil are wholly owned subsidiaries of the CCP or Chinese Communist Party."

I assume you are referring to the ALP and Greens as left wing political parties, there are a few others but they have no representation in parliaments. If your claim that these parties are wholly owned subsidiaries of the CCP or Chinese Communist Party, and being well documented and scientifically proven you should have no problem providing real evidence. I would think the businessman Andrew Twiggy Forest would have a closer affinity with the CCP, than anyone from Labor or the Greens.

Hi Paul,

Shanghai Sam Dastyari IS a perfectly normal example of & completely typical example of the people who infect the Lie-bore party. Or...

Anti-worker
Lie-bore
Poverty-creators

The ruling, left wing elites in the "Land of OZ" have done nothing other than progressively create more poverty, more domestic violence & more child abuse every year for decades.

The loony left have been progressively weakening Australia strategically, while progressively strengthening Communist China strategically thanks to Comrade Gough Whitlam in 1972.

YOUR taxes have been given to Communist China by these traitors. Wake up.

Some time in the future, your children will be spitting on your grave in thanks for the future YOU have doomed them to.

Hi Ima,

You have a certain political stance/bias which seems to emanate from a right wing ideology. Just offering Dastyari as proof that Labor is a puppet of Communist China hardly implicates the whole of the party, some 50,000 members, its executive and political functionaries (politicians) as such.

Those on the right like to throw up the historical figure Gough as some raving Commie, I don't believe he was any such thing. No more than 'Pig Iron' Bob the founded of the Liberal party was a raving NAZI.

BTW; I'm loathed to refer to the Chinese regime as "Communist". They appear to be a strange mix of pragmatic whatever's. I don't think Mr Xi Jinping spends much time these days reading Karl Marx. Like Stalin, who threw the Communist Manifesto into the trash can in about 1923, I think Xi has done the same thing. When you trust the whole show to one fella, he tends to make it his show, and not the peoples show, if you get what I mean. Stalin and Hitler were guilty of that, I'm afraid so is Mr Xi. What do you think?

Hi Paul,

I will make it easy for you...

Please name one Australian leftist who hasn't been "serving foreign powers"?

Apart from Rex Connor, Whitlam ministry & Graeme Campbell, Hawke ministry (both of them national or patriotic socialists) ALL Australian leftists have betrayed Australian workers.

If there was a shred of decency in you? Paul1405 would become Mark Latham 2.0

Paul1405.

Hi Paul1405,

If you have voted for ANY left wing political party, anytime in an Australian election over the last 2 decades.

Then you have voted for the Chinese Communist Party of Australia & colonisation of Australia by Communist China.

Ask a criminal lawyer what "aiding & abetting" is.

Hi Ima,

I understand your concern with our politicians and foreign governments. I do think the vast majority have Australia's interest at heart in that regard. What does concern me more is Politian's, when in government, attempting to curry favour with the "rich and powerful", one such example is ex NSW Premier Barry O'Farrell's secret undisclosed meeting with James Packer before the approval of that hideous construction at Barangaroo which was to nett Packer millions. This development was not in the public interest and a investigation has shown the operator to be nothing more than an unfit criminal entreaty. For every Dastyari there is a dozen O'Farrell's.

Hi Paul1405,

100% wrong, for every O'Farrell, there is a thousand Dastyari's.

Do you think i came down in the last shower?

I have witnessed evil, leftist corruption & incompetence on a radical, extreme scale never seen before in world history.

North, south, east or west, federal, state, territory or local, the Labor-Green Socialist Alliance with Communist China is the most corrupt, incompetent, evil regime in world history.

Hitler was a nice guy in comparison to ALL Lie-bore or Watermelon leaders since the 1960s.

Even Pol Pot was a nice guy in comparison to Comrade Gough Whitlam.

Hi Ima,

A big call there. "Pol Pot was a nice guy in comparison to Comrade Gough Whitlam." and the claim Hitler was a nice guy as well, when compared with left wing leaders post 1960. I don't believe any reasonable Australian would agree with you. Interesting that the historical "conservative" PM Harold Holt was linked to Chinese espionage, and one day mysteriously disappeared, some say not by accident.

I assume with your reference to Mark Latham you are a One Nation devotee. I find the Hanson (One Nation) philosophy rather extreme and dangerous. Fortunately ON has gained little traction over the years with it obvious loopy leadership. What do you think of the antics of party heavyweights Dickson and Ashby in America a couple of years back. It seemed they were willing to sell Australia out for a few pieces of silver.

Hi Paul1405,

Look backwards with the benefit of 20/20 hindsight. No regime in world history has created more poverty, created more domestic violence & created more child abuse than the Labor-Green Socialist Alliance with Communist China since 1972.

30 years ago swinging voters were about 10%. Today swinging voters are about 30% & growing exponentially every year.

Anybody who would allocate their first preference vote to the Labor, Liberal, Green or National parties is so extremely mentally ill, they should be taken out to the RSPCA & humanely put down with the other dangerous dogs.

We used to execute people by firing squad for treason...

But today we have the class action lawsuit. All left wing politicians & public servants who have been sabotaging Australia or "serving foreign powers" could lose everything they own + go to jail "for the term of their natural lives".

So you're a left wing Harold Holt conspiracy nut. Get help.

Q, Please name ONE political party on Australian soil that is NOT creating more poverty, creating more domestic violence & creating more child abuse? A, There is only one.

Why do you want more child abuse?

Hi Ima,

Nothing to say about Dicko and Ashby?

Is that un-named party you refer to One Nation.

HH theories of Chinese involvement with his disappearance is nothing more than that, theories without evidence.

Quoting you; "Anybody who would allocate their first preference vote to the Labor, Liberal, Green or National parties is so extremely mentally ill, they should be taken out to the RSPCA & humanely put down with the other dangerous dogs."

So you are advocating the gassing of undesirable people (The RSPCA for over 50 years gassed dog that were surplus to requirements). Like Hitler humanely (he didn't directly torture people that much, well some he did) gassed the Jews and others he viewed as "mentally ill" is this One Nation policy? You should back up what you advocate, I suppose it would be off to the crematoria for the dead folk, Labor, Liberal, Green or National voters, me included.

Hi Paul1405,

Thank you for falling into my trap & regurgitating your usual Twitter talking points.

I'm conservative christian, so i don't advocate for cruel & unusual punishment.

But thanks to the ruling, leftist elites, millions of Australians no longer are christians. "Thou shalt not kill" means nothing to them & they are radically, extremely angry at you. So you may yet be lynched?

Should i & other conservative christians attempt to save you from the lynch mobs you worked so hard to create.

I advocate for "rule of law" 100% of all leftists can "pay their debt to society" legally, in court, go to jail & have their assets seized for compensation to victims of their crimes.

Winner, winner chicken dinner. #SSITSA

#SueSocialistsIntoTheStoneAge

Hi Ima,

Sure you didn't realise the implication of your comment on an open forum? No trap, just revision. Be careful when setting traps, as you may fall into one yourself.

"I'm conservative christian", why not follow Christ and be a radical Christian, get more done that way. I follow no particular religion, although I see good in some teachings, bad in others. In that way I can approach all with an open mind. Buddhism has much to offer, as does the teachings of Christ. Not familiar with most of the others, but I'm sure there is good and bad in all.

Hi Paul1405,

ALL religions on the planet are either positive or negative.

The 2 most negative religions on planet earth are Leftism & Islam. Both of these extremely, evil religions are in a coalition against freedom & democracy. Be careful what you vote for, as you might get it.

BTW:- Australia's constitution recognises traditional christianity & NO other religion on earth.