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On liberty, sans jab : Comments

By Sonia Bowditch, published 12/5/2021

If ‘vaccination is our route to liberty,’ as Tony Blair recently said there are many of us who might consider changing our idea of what constitutes liberty.

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Many people will learn that they can live without those "social mores". We don't have to travel overseas. We don't have to eat out. We would be better off if only the people wanting to do university courses to get into professions vital to society did so; all the social workers, arty types and people currently learning how to be antisocial, activists, trouble makers and idiots could do what they do by correspondence. We don't have to form into mobs to watch a few other people do something useless that they get ridiculous amounts of money to do - sport, concerts etc. If you can work from home, you can amuse yourself at home or on your own out in the fresh air.

The economy will take a hit, of course, but the increasingly woke corporate sector can handle that and find new ways to make money.

People are already staying away from mass entertainment because of wokeness, knee bending and whining about racism. Authoritarian restrictions and surveillance because of the Chinese flu would be just another reason to do so.

If you don't want to live like that, fight authoritarian governments. Get back back to doing what people with balls used to do. Contact the likes of Morrison and remind them that they work for you and that they rely on you for their cushy, privileged jobs.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 12 May 2021 11:43:13 AM
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Perhaps, maybe, who knows, debatable. Simply put, the only solution is to vaccinate and vaccinate the whole world.

Preferably before this killer pathogen mutates until it develops a new variant that's ten times more virulent/vaccine-resistant. Vaccine resistance created by those hold outs who refuse the jab but get reinfected time after time. And those who decide they don't need the second jab or booster shot?

Our rights have never ever been included in an unalienable bill of irrevocable rights! But are extended by elected officials as a privilege they can extend at will. This must change.

We will need a fit for purpose quarantine system for years going forward and the routine sanitation of all inbound goods, least we introduce the aforementioned new strain via that currently ignored pathway?

When that occurs, the only treatment that may save lives is isolating hyperbaric chambers replete with commodes, inbuilt access gloves etc, that enable non-contact treatment from outside. Treatment essentially flooding the patient with oxygen laced with ozone? At not less than three atmospheres.

We build these now and create a stockpile that can be retasked for a myriad of conditions. Otherwise complacent she'll be right/I'm all right jack, pollies will react as always, too late! Dumb luck on an island continent.

We could create and manufacture around 8-9 really effective vaccines if we could just get past the endlessly prevaricating pollies with the purse strings and shite for brains. And just leave it to the experts.

You'd be forgiven for believing some of these boneheads want to keep this mongrel disease circulating indefinitely but limited with quarantine controls and other badly managed measures.

The rich and privileged are just as arrogant as they ever were and the world over will pay a bewildering cost for that fatally flawed mindset!

Just because it's new technology shouldn't mean we don't do it. Particularly when that could lead to a host of effective cancer treatments and maybe a cure for HIV/aids and many other applications?

The sky's the limit and we do punch well about our weight in biomedicine!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Wednesday, 12 May 2021 12:32:20 PM
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Alan B

The makers of the jab are not claiming that it stops you getting the virus, getting sick, dying, or spreading it to others.

Plus, if the jabs work, then there's no need for anyone to know anyone else's vaccination status, and no need everyone to get it, is there?

So how does what you're saying make sense?

Ttbn
You don't get to decide what everyone else's values are.
Posted by Cumberland, Wednesday, 12 May 2021 3:05:14 PM
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Cumberland,

No, I don't get to decide what other's values are. You seem to be the man for that. I speak only for myself. I simply give my OPINION. Have you not noticed that word in this site's description? I also don't tend NOT to go on and on about it, unlike some bores I won't name.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 12 May 2021 3:25:44 PM
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Blessed be the author for advocating a simpler lifestyle in the country and for quoting the wisdom of C. S. Lewis.

The trigger for her positive thoughts, however, is a bit strange: all this fuss and rage just for this little COVID jab?

Why, can't one accept a vaccine AND enjoy a wholesome independent lifestyle in the country, away from cities, industry, luxury and governments?
Posted by Yuyutsu, Wednesday, 12 May 2021 6:03:32 PM
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Speaking of bores ttbn is the most predictably boring contributor to this forum.
Posted by Daffy Duck, Wednesday, 12 May 2021 6:20:14 PM
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