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Is Premier Dan Andrews Australia's most dangerous man? : Comments

By Ken Phillips, published 18/2/2021

The first lockdown, lasting 112 days in 2020 and costing 801 lives resulted directly from disastrously incompetent mismanagement of hotel quarantine by the government.

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Considering that Juliar Gillard took nearly 3 years to kill 1200 people, Chairman Dan killing 800 in just a few months boosts him to the top way past Ivan Mallat or all the Muslim Jihadis put together.
Posted by shadowminister, Thursday, 18 February 2021 8:31:42 AM
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Andrews certainly is a dangerous man - too dangerous to be in politics at least. His arrogant stupidity and draconian dictatorship have seen Victoria become the most dangerous state: a place to be avoided at all costs.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 18 February 2021 8:58:11 AM
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Oh FFS, the attacks on Andrews are really getting out of hand.

Scott Morrison in June was advising against a lockdown and saying Australians were going to have to live with the virus. In anyone's language except from those on the far right the threat Morrison posses is far greater than any Premier. Australia would look far different now with thousands of victims to the pandemic if Morrison had got his way.

The majority of Victorians think Andrews has done a pretty solid job under the circumstances. They acknowledge the flaws but we have been grateful he has been in charge.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Thursday, 18 February 2021 9:55:58 AM
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Andrews also has displayed his disgraceful attitude to the rule of law this country is rightly proud of with his comments on the clearing of George Pell after the bungling of his mate Ashton's police force. Yes. Andrews is a very dangerous man; not a fit and proper person to be in politics, let alone Premier of a state.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 18 February 2021 10:22:04 AM
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No, it's folks like the author who speak from too low down and know SFA about epidemiology? Hotel quarantine was never going to work, given they as a general rule, are insufficiently ventilated!?

The staff and security come and go and could be going to the local pub to de-stress etc. Where they then share the highly contagious infection with dozens of others? And given the location, in our most densely populated areas!

We beat the Spanish flu by eliminating it via our offshore island quarantine stations and good personal hygiene! Not through widespread vaccinations!

Given the way this highly contagious killer virus is mutating into more virulent strains. Island quarantine needs to be once again activated to ensure all those infected or inward bound? Spend as much as a month in such splendid isolation. In places like Kangaroo island, Rottnest etc.

Where we can put a field hospital that is fit for purpose! And where staff stay to transition through another staff only island quarantine, until they are themselves negative triple-tested and also safe amoung the general population!

This is just not an old person's disease, but, one where young folk can get sick, without becoming visibly symptomatic! Yet suffer a lifetime of deleterious consequences!

This lassi fare approach by numerous learn on the job, personalities needs to end, as does the patent politicisation of a killer pandemic!

Just don't do something that's already proven totally effective, stand there, duck shoving blame!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Thursday, 18 February 2021 12:01:45 PM
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By the sound of things, Andrews has nothing on some OLO'ers !
Posted by individual, Thursday, 18 February 2021 2:06:46 PM
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I don't know individual, reading the above posts, at least one of them might be Andrews alter ego.
Posted by Hasbeen, Thursday, 18 February 2021 2:32:35 PM
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This highly infectious contagion has to date taken more lives and created more casualties than two world wars?

The most dangerous men in the field of politics have to be the far-right lunatics in the UK and the USA who were so incompetent, both of them got very sick and had to be hospitalised and in each case were at risk of a prematurely truncated life! Compare that bumbling and denial management model with that of NZ!

Steele, I have to agree with your, FFS take and that not all the outraged cage rattlers are not in the zoo. Andrews and indeed any other political leader is only as good as the advice he or she receives and acts on!

How many of the cage rattlers commenting here are giving the NSW premier a hard time for the ruby princess and the keystone cop release of the first infection into the Australian mainland?

None! And just what you expect from the Alt-right, who can't sleep straight in bed!

We beat the last pandemic that also swept this nation with island quarantine stations alone and could do so again!

And may have to if the mutations get ever more virulent and vaccine-resistant!?

Simply put, island quarantine and just completely isolating the infected and all incoming, has to be a better option now than a hard new lockdown every time this killer disease escapes into the wider and unprotected community.

The anti- vaxers can refuse vaccination but not mandated island quarantine if we had it and some sanity at the helm!

Look geniuses. Properly managed island quarantine and widely utilised thirty-second breath tests would allow the economy to completely restart, albeit with masks, social distancing and strict hand hygiene in mandated play!

Or must we wait for it to mutate and start taking out newborn babies, before the neo-Nazi cage rattlers/Andrews tag-team attack dogs, put a sock in it?

If the cap fits?
Alan B
Posted by Alan B., Thursday, 18 February 2021 5:53:22 PM
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SR,

The number of people that think Comrade Dan has done a good job is falling while the number that thinks he's an incompetent moron is increasing.

Every other state has managed not to destroy the state's economy with a massive lockdown by simply having competent quarantine and track and trace while the only quarantine Idiot Dan managed well was a whitewash inquiry into his government's abject failure which found no one responsible for the massive cock-up.

Alan,

The Spanish flu killed 50m people, this pandemic falls far short of that.
WW1 killed about 18m
WW2 killed about 50m with more recent civilian casualties in Russia figures.
Posted by shadowminister, Friday, 19 February 2021 5:35:24 AM
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Dear shadowminister,

That is patently untrue so why say it?

The last polling done on this by Roy Morgan in late November showed Andrews had jumped 12% to 71%.
http://www.roymorgan.com/findings/8568-roy-morgan-survey-on-voting-intention-and-approvals-in-victoria-november-12-2020-202011111454

You can't just wish these things into existence to make a point. That isn't how it works outside your hard right forums old chum.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Friday, 19 February 2021 2:19:02 PM
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Dan's popularity is based on scaring the the pants off people with the deadly-killer-mutant-nebuliser-strain narrative to obscure his quarantine mess. He's at the ready to save everyone with indiscriminant lockdowns and the lockout of internationally stranded countrymen, including Victorians.

The Great Hysteria of 2020 will be written of for decades to come. How can an evolving virus, which 99.77% of the infected survive without a vaccination and 99.95% may survive with one, have had the impact it has? http://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m3883/rr

Dan's playing it like a fiddle, having seemingly convinced 71% of voters he stands between them and the valley of death. After vaccinations he'll say, "Look! I saved your lives, vote for me!". The sight of the bloke sends me apoplectic.

I have aquired DADS, Dan Andrews Derangement Syndrome.
Posted by Luciferase, Friday, 19 February 2021 6:25:43 PM
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SR,

A 3-month-old poll?

This is before the Fwit locked down Melbourne for the 3rd time after yet another screw-up.
Posted by shadowminister, Saturday, 20 February 2021 11:40:35 AM
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Dear shadowminister,

You were the one saying he had dived in the polls yet you give zero evidence to back it up. Was it a feeling you had perhaps? Or is it just gospel in the far right enclaves you inhabit? All rubbish mate. Try again.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Saturday, 20 February 2021 12:17:16 PM
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SR,

I never mentioned the polls, you mention 3-month-old polls that were irrelevant, to contradict me you need evidence not like in your hard left whinge blogs. Try this from the left whinge ABC

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-02-18/victorias-lockdown-and-the-political-fallout-for-daniel-andrews/13164962
Posted by shadowminister, Saturday, 20 February 2021 12:24:08 PM
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https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/victoriastan/2021/02/daniel-andrews-bad-case-of-china-envy/
How low can he go.
David
Posted by VK3AUU, Monday, 22 February 2021 4:25:48 AM
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Spot on, I'm amazed that Dan and his government have any credibility, yet they have great public support in Victoria. And what happened to the prospective prosecution for 800 deaths?
Posted by Faustino, Monday, 22 February 2021 9:31:06 AM
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